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Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim
Those pictures indeed looked pretty ghetto. However, I've explored a great deal of the central Tucson area, and I've seen much better neighborhoods than the one Daniel_T is showing. Actually, most of Tucson is better looking than those pictures. And yeah, I've seen neighborhoods in Tucson where they park their car on the "yard"-- but it's really a crushed rock driveway, not just dirt. I've also seen tons of neighborhoods with lush desert landscaping and trees. And a lot of it is which angle you choose to shoot at-- with a camera, you can make an ugly area look even uglier than it really is. One or two of the houses shown in those pictures actually looked kind of cool. Miamiman, I can see how from your vantage point in North Scottsdale, you think the Phoenix area is a "new" looking city, but truth is, you can find dozens and dozens and dozens of square miles in Phoenix that look pretty run down too. Just to go the area directly south of downtown Phoenix, south of the railroad tracks-- it looks like you're in a warzone. Much of central Phoenix, south Phoenix, the west Valley, even parts of Mesa look as bad or worse than Daniel_T's pictures.
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I have restated many times that I spent a summer in Tucson. I have seen south Phoenix, I have seem the older parts of Mesa and the west Valley, but none could compete with what I saw in Tucson. Much of south Phoenix is run-down, but just the sheer number of neighborhoods in Tucson that look run-down astound me.
I highly doubt that all of the neighborhoods with bars on the windows are actually bad areas, but it somehow seems that barred-windows are somehow fashionable in Tucson. I have seen barred windows in the Catalina Foothills, on what are probably $700,000-$900,000 homes. Those bars make the neighborhood look ghetto and unsafe, when in actuality it is probably perfectly fine.
If you look at the picture with the car parked off the street next to that beautiful pea green shack, that was not crushed gravel. That was dirt. It seems people just drive 45 MPH down their street, hop the curb, and put their car in park wherever they feel. That also makes the neighborhood look cheap.
I am disturbed because these neighborhoods can look so much better than they do. It seems that people just don't care.
For as much care as Tucsonans put into making sure their city doesn't resemble Phoenix, you would think they'd put as much care into making their neighborhoods look like they're in the developed world.