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Old 01-12-2010, 08:27 PM
 
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I am eager to see how Tucson will change by 2025. With the right leadership and attitudes, Tucson still has the potential to be a really nice place.
I agree. It would be great to see some significant changes in the leadership/vision of the city. The place has so much potential if only Tucson's voters would elect leaders who actually know how to run a city of its size...
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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This was the typical Tucson mentality I encountered when I lived there. Oh no! We can't have skyscrapers! No, no, we can't be like L.A or Phoenix!

Problem is, Tucson only has an idea of what it doesn't want to be. It doesn't really seem to have a positive vision for what it does want.

So, the default choices take over which results in: sprawl, vacant lots in the middle of town, lots of traffic, poor public transit, and houses with bare dirt and ugly gravel.

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Wow... you've dumped a lot of options into one category. I was starting to list categories for you, but when i saw "bare dirt and ugly gravel," i thought, its dirt and rock. How is it ugly exactly? Its the desert mind you.

I don't want Tucson to turn into Phoenix, too much of a mess. Too car dependent.

Tempe on the other hand i enjoy dearly and wish more of the valley was like this. A mix of residential, commercial, and proper transit.

Tucson is investing in "mass transit" as you call it. They are building a modern street car. Though there are buses that go to most of Tucson, i don't know what your idea of "mass transit" are.

I have an idea of what I would like Tucson to be, but why would I share it. No one cares.
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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Wow... you've dumped a lot of options into one category. I was starting to list categories for you, but when i saw "bare dirt and ugly gravel," i thought, its dirt and rock. How is it ugly exactly? Its the desert mind you.

I don't want Tucson to turn into Phoenix, too much of a mess. Too car dependent.

Tempe on the other hand i enjoy dearly and wish more of the valley was like this. A mix of residential, commercial, and proper transit.

Tucson is investing in "mass transit" as you call it. They are building a modern street car. Though there are buses that go to most of Tucson, i don't know what your idea of "mass transit" are.

I have an idea of what I would like Tucson to be, but why would I share it. No one cares.
Hey, Wingmeister... the Pony cares!


Yeah... these "bare dirt and ugly gravel" whiners have yet to develop a clue that we currently are all situated in a DESERT! Those who truly care about Arizona prefer that these types leave their GRASS where they came from!
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Old 01-14-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Yeah... these "bare dirt and ugly gravel" whiners have yet to develop a clue that we currently are all situated in a DESERT! Those who truly care about Arizona prefer that these types leave their GRASS where they came from!


Can't wait to get away from the grass!

Years ago, my parents had some land in the middle of Wisconsin with a small summer home. A few times they had friends from the Chicago area spend a weekend there. these people said ti looked dirty there and should have green grass. It was open fields with field grass and wooded areas all on sand. It was the natural look of the area and looked just fine. It's funny how when some people get out of the little shell that they live in and don't understand how everywhere else isn't exactly the same. If it is not identical they say it is dirty or desolate.
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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Can't wait to get away from the grass!

Years ago, my parents had some land in the middle of Wisconsin with a small summer home. A few times they had friends from the Chicago area spend a weekend there. these people said ti looked dirty there and should have green grass. It was open fields with field grass and wooded areas all on sand. It was the natural look of the area and looked just fine. It's funny how when some people get out of the little shell that they live in and don't understand how everywhere else isn't exactly the same. If it is not identical they say it is dirty or desolate.
Exactly... (sigh) if a person lacks knowledge in a certain thing, their only option is to give us their particular slant on that thing instead of doing some intelligent research. Thus, we all end up with just one more totally uninformed (ignorant) point of view.

Hey, hurry up and get out here to Arizona. We've got the coffee brewin' and the gate's unlocked!
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Hey, Wingmeister... the Pony cares!

Yeah... these "bare dirt and ugly gravel" whiners have yet to develop a clue that we currently are all situated in a DESERT! Those who truly care about Arizona prefer that these types leave their GRASS where they came from!
Exactly. Keep your non-native grass out of Arizona please. I would still like wild forest,in Arizona, to be still there when im 50...
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Baja Arizona
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Exactly. Keep your non-native grass out of Arizona please. I would still like wild forest,in Arizona, to be still there when im 50...
Yeah... what the Winger Man sez...
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