Tucson, AZ - non-Daniel neighborhoods (Phoenix, Congress: real estate, apartment complex, rentals)

[sierraAZ]

As I've stated many times, I'm not a big fan of Tucson by any means, but I'm certainly not a fan of distorted presentations, either. There are two sides to each story and everybody has his/her own reality. Daniel's reality is not the only valid one. If even I'm tired of this attitude, it speaks volumes! That's the reason I spent some time and collected some images from various web sites in order to present a more well-rounded picture to people who have never visited.

http://www.arizona.edu/tours/tucson/images/hikingtrail.jpg (broken link)

http://www.arizona.edu/tours/tucson/images/hikingtrail.jpg (broken link)

http://www.virtualtucsonmagazine.com...vie_tucson.jpg



http://www.go-arizona.com/AZ/images/...-LaPlacita.jpg

http://www.vicnapier.com/images/Downtown%20Tucson.jpg (broken link)

http://www.vicnapier.com/images/Downtown%20Tucson.jpg (broken link)



http://144university.com/images/new-view.jpg

http://www.dornhomes.com/images/tucson-downtown.jpg (broken link)

http://www.dornhomes.com/images/tucson-downtown.jpg (broken link)



http://cityinsights.com/Tucson/images/tucson.jpg



http://www.tucsonazhomes.us/right.jpg



http://www.execustay.com/apartments/...a%20Paloma.jpg



http://www.tucsonhousefinder.com/ima...westtucson.gif

Tucson Sam Hughes Photos | Tucson Real Estate Tucson Homes (http://www.barbaralasky.com/tucson-samhughes-photos.html - broken link)

http://johnwesleymillercompanies.com/images/header1.jpg (broken link)

http://johnwesleymillercompanies.com/images/header1.jpg (broken link)





http://www.home4sale-tucson.com/Tucs...csonCivano.jpg

These would be pretty typical homes in typical neighborhoods/subdivisions:


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9...ure0001ft8.jpg

http://www.rentals.com/Media/Rentals/732055/732055_5580049.jpg (broken link)

http://www.rentals.com/Media/Rentals/732055/732055_5580049.jpg (broken link)



http://mls.pamtreece.com/images/mls/1_20737965.jpg



http://206.173.89.51/negot8_com/teph...0Kleindale.jpg

That's what a typical apartment complex looks like:



http://images.ncinfo.net/phototmp/ph...6BB849D12C.jpg



http://www.emeraldpointeapartments.c...ool400x300.jpg

And then there are luxury homes! Just because most of us don't live in them doesn't mean they're non-existent.



http://www.tucson-luxury-homes.com/t...es/daytime.jpg



http://www.villapoggio.com/villa%20poggio%20resized.jpg

http://www.11701balboa.com/image_dis...5805.jpg&w=400

http://www.seetucson.com/MLSpics/20728467.jpg (broken link)

http://www.seetucson.com/MLSpics/20728467.jpg (broken link)

P.S. "Typical" is an euphemism for mid-price range. Yes, dumps are available, just like anywhere else. There's no shortage of ugliness and poverty. Am I supposed to say the whole city of Chicago looks like this? Because, yes, the picture is taken in Chicago. As you can see, it comes from a government site, no less.



http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/por...ago_ghetto.jpg

[Daniel_T]

let me make myself clear, I am not distorting anything. This is what I see when I walk to work and I decided to post it. I plan on going to other parts of Tucson and taking nice pictures but I haven't had a chance.

I bought my first digital camera and wanted to take pics so I decided to shoot my neighborhood. I wasn't bashing it or anything!!! Why is everyone thinking I am bashing Tucson. Yeah, I don't like the city, but I wasn't bad mouthing it in my post. Here are some things I have said about Tucson from my post.


"Not all of Tucson is like that. A lot of it is though. Neighborhoods in Tucson vary block by block. This is in central tucson, where there are a lot of nasty lookin streets. South side is the same"

" wasn't trying to make Tucson look worse than it is. Certainly wasn't my intention. I just take pictures of what there is, and obviously this is what there was."

"You know, I have to agree with you on that. When I first came to Tucson, I couldn't stand it here. It has grown on me a bit."

Originally Posted by Chowhound

If you could find some more pleasant pictures of Tucson area that would be great.

Chowhound.

"that is what I plan on doing. I was just walking around my neighborhood which is not that nice"



I wish everyone would lay off already.

Daniel_T

[triskele]

Thank you, SierraAZ, for some great photos!

For a brief time, I was lucky enough to live in an amazing restored adobe house in Tucson, essentially behind Congress st (more or less) in the Barrio Historico district. I don't have scanned photos to upload, but here is a link to the very same lovely little house:

Cactus line the front wall of La Casa Lila Barrio Historico in downtown Tucson - lonelyplanetimages stock photography

Wish I could show the photos of the inside.. truly lovely, lots of color and charm.

I can't say the whole neighborhood was as charming, but my point is, some people really DO care about those old adobe buildings in Tucson, and take care _of_ them, too. (in other words, it isn't just the modern stuff that's 'nice' and well kept). Casa Lila dates to the 1880's.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Daniel_T

Why is everyone thinking I am bashing Tucson.

Because I'm not basing my opinion on a single post. I think it's fair to people to see who you are and what experiences you have in order to make up their minds. Your post below is pretty good indication. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't even seen another part of the city and yet you feel the need to generalize. Granted, your last post was titled "my neighborhood," but that's all you have to say on any thread. Readers unaware of your age and lifestyle can take it at face value.

Differences and similarities between phoenix & Tucson

I take it you're a student. A student stuck in a bad part of town without a car is hardly the best representative sample of the population of any city.

[Daniel_T]

You are right. I am a student stuck in a bad part of town without a car. If I go into a nice neighborhood, I don't feel I have to generalize it. If it is a nice neighborhood, fine. If not, then oh well.

I think Tucson has many wonderful parts, I just have no way to get to them, so I ask for opinions and give opinions.

Daniel

[Memphis Mom of three]

Good call SierraAZ!!! You were right on the money! Thanks for posting some other pics that show a different side of Tucson.
Any city has "good" and "bad" parts. It's important to be respectful to people that make up both parts. Being a student DanielT, I bet you have the opportunity to leave this area (at least some day) where some other people in your neighborhood don't. I'm from a city that has plenty of the "good" and "bad". I try to be respectful to all and look for beauty in every situation. I suggest you do the same.

[Daniel_T]

let me explain this. When I took these pics, I wasn't thinking about taking good or bad pics of the city. I just wanted to show everyone what it looks like on my way to work. I was excited because I bought my first digital camera!! Next time I take pics, I'll make sure their nice because obviously people are angry that I took these.

Everyone jumped on me before I had the chance to explain myself. I never said I wasn't going to look at the beauty. I just haven't gotten there yet. Tomorrow I'm heading to "A" Mountain and the downtown area and will take a wide array of pics. Hopefully that makes SOME happy.

Daniel

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Daniel_T

let me explain this. When I took these pics, I wasn't thinking about taking good or bad pics of the city. I just wanted to show everyone what it looks like on my way to work. I was excited because I bought my first digital camera!! Next time I take pics, I'll make sure their nice because obviously people are angry that I took these.

Everyone jumped on me before I had the chance to explain myself. I never said I wasn't going to look at the beauty. I just haven't gotten there yet. Tomorrow I'm heading to "A" Mountain and the downtown area and will take a wide array of pics. Hopefully that makes SOME happy.

Daniel

How sweet and innocent...

2. To me, Tucson is for the most part, a dump. How does Phoenix compare?

Can you say the rough areas in Phoenix are comparable to Tucson or worse? I find Tucson to be a dump. there are relatively few clean places in Tucson

Do I need to quote more?! That's why I said my opinion is based on your overall persona. That's why I never responded in the Phoenix thread. OK, I'll stop here...

[Daniel_T]

My goodness, why aren't you just the rude person tonight. "how sweet and innocent..."

Those are my personal opinions. Okay, so I don't like Tucson. BIG DEAL. I have the right to express my opinion however I want. I think your photos are kinda messed up as well. They only show (for the most part) homes that people will never afford. Go into a regular neighborhood with your own camera and show what real people get.

From now on, if you don't like my photos, then don't comment.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Daniel_T

Those are my personal opinions. Okay, so I don't like Tucson. BIG DEAL. I have the right to express my opinion however I want. I think your photos are kinda messed up as well. They only show (for the most part) homes that people will never afford. Go into a regular neighborhood with your own camera and show what real people get.

They sure are your personal opinions, but you're trying to present them as universally valid. I don't see you saying "my neighborhood" is a dump... Besides, what drives the need to take pictures and videos of a dump...?

I'm not in love with Tucson, either, for various reasons, but you can't call white black. What is pretty and clean is pretty and clean; what is dull is dull. Yes, I did show a few pictures that don't represent everybody's lifestyle and I said so. What I said was typical is pretty much typical. The pictures are from realtors' sites, the MLS, apartment complexes' sites (as far as housing goes). I'm not the only one on this forum. Others can confirm whether they're typical or not. I don't see them uninhabited. Yes, college students usually don't live in them (unless they live with their parents), but I don't believe this fact is Tucson-specific.

And even the kids know it's sunny here most of the time and we have some of the most beautiful skies. To go out of your way and show an ugly neighborhood on a rare nasty day can hardly be perceived as unbiased friendly shooting for the benefit of the readers.