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Old 02-05-2008, 02:17 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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ArizonaHeat -

Your posts make no sense and you seem to be contradicting yourself. I THINK you are quoting other posters and responding to what they are saying, but it looks like maybe you are not including the leading HTML so the quote looks like your own post.

Am I mis-understanding that or what?

Ken

 
Old 02-05-2008, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I went ahead and figured out what the problem was.. ArizonaHeat was quoting previous messages in this thread but mistakenly deleted the first [quote] tag and forgot the last one, so not only were his messages misinterpreted (by me also), but hard to follow as a response to a previous post.

After reading through his posts it's clear that ArizonaHeat is a supporter of Tucson!

ArizonaHeat, next time you quote a post be sure that you have the [ QUOTE ] before and the [ /QUOTE ] after the portion you quote so that it looks like this:

Quote:
This is what a quoted post should look like in your preview!
 
Old 02-05-2008, 07:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
10 reasons in random order:
1. highest skin cancer rate in the nation
2. valley fever - it's real and can be very hard to recover from
3. schools - worst ranking in the nation in graduating kids from high school
4. very low wages for same work compared to other parts of the USA
5. poor representation in the state capitol - tucson is az's step child
6. termites - only 2 kinds of houses here - those that have termites and those that will.
7. water issues are worsening with time - very long drought!
8. infrastructure (roads, etc) cannot keep up with the population boom
9. & 10. Can't think of any more . . . other ideas out there?
Lots of Tucson houses don't, and won't, have termites...
because lots of Tucson houses aren't made of wood.
(Familiar with stucco, adobe, etc., anyone? ^_^)

And surely the skin cancer MUST be worse in Phoenix,
where there is far more sun/heat...or if the skin cancer
isn't worse there, then maybe nearly everyone there is
applying at least SPF 30 nearly every day!!! ^_~

I lived in Tucson for six years. I loved it except for the
heat. My reasons not to move there would be: it's too
hot too often and at too many times of the year, most
years they really only have two seasons (wet and cool,
or dry and hot! ^_~) (although there can be light snowfall
occasionally...VERY occasionally...about two or three times
in six years!), you're likely to get sunburned, your possessions
are likely to get sun damage, you can't have a dark color of car
unless you don't care that it'll get even hotter than most
other cars, you have to be REALLY careful not to leave your
children, pets, lipstick, crayons, etc. in your car for more
than a VERY short time...and you just might get too darn
TIRED OF BEING HOT.

Other than the heat, it's a pretty good place to live. ^_^
If you hate heat, don't move there unless you're rich enough
to be able to afford a TON of air conditioning, ice, ice cream, etc.! ^_^
(At least it's mostly dry heat, though. Very little humidity.)

There was a show a few nights ago, on the National Geographic
channel I think, where a man did an experiment of putting
a popsicle on a black car and a popsicle on a white car,
to see how fast they'd melt (seven minutes for the black
car, several minutes longer for the white one) (my aunt,
now deceased, who lived in New York, should've lived to
see that one...she didn't believe that dark objects get
hotter faster than light objects, for some reason...it's a
scientific principle...oh, well! ^_~). Anyway, the experiment
was done in Denver (I now live in one of Denver's suburbs,
Westminster ^_^). It would be pretty difficult to conduct
in Tucson, even more so in Phoenix. Know why? Hardly
anyone living in the desert would dare to have a black car!
(And most people who live in the desert know, from their
own experience in some cases, that it's really true that
light-colored clothing keeps them cooler, etc. ^_^)

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Old 02-05-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mandapanda07 View Post
My husband wants our young family to move to the Tuscon area, we live in Kansas. He really wants us to move but I am very apprehensive after reading about the spiders, scorpions and snakes. I am scared to death of spiders. Are they prevelent everywhere? Is there anything a person can do about them or do you just live with them?
Most of the snakes and spiders are nonpoisonous. If you
are VERY afraid of ALL spiders, then try keeping all your
windows and doors closed as much as possible. (Or you
could always call in an exterminator, if you feel that you
really must. MOST spiders are helpful rather than otherwise,
though...they eat the unhelpful bugs for us. ^_^ [So that we
don't have to eat them ourselves. ^_~ Just kidding. ^_~])

Black widows and other poisonous spiders are around
occasionally. Poisonous snakes (such as rattlesnakes)
are rare unless you live way out in the desert. (I do
recommend not letting your young children poke around
in nooks and crannies with their bare fingers. Also, some
creatures, such as scorpions and tarantulas, will defend
themselves if you step on them but will probably leave
you alone if you leave them alone, so watch where you
step [add "and toes" to the "bare fingers" suggestion!].)

The various interesting weird creatures (including Gila
monsters...I saw only one, but that was very soon after
we moved there...it crawled right past the sliding glass
door! very interesting sight!) are not necessarily prevalent
EVERYWHERE, and aren't necessarily seen very often even
where they are prevalent. It can feel (especially if you have
been reading a very descriptive guide to the state!) as if
you are moving to the Land of the Creepy-Crawlies or
something...but unless you're going to live way out in the
desert away from other people, you'll probably see more
people than wild creatures, most of the time. The creatures
are around, but they tend to (usually) mind their own
business and to not even be seen for long periods of time.

Honestly, it's not really as scary a place as it might seem.
You don't have to be afraid to move there...although if
you're arachnophobic (afraid of spiders) in the extreme,
you may have to be afraid even if you're not in danger...
but anyway, it's not really all that dangerous, as long as
you're sensible and careful. ^_^

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Old 02-05-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ozark Nana View Post
Ok, these are MY 10 reasons!!

1. Over 300 days of sunshine each year...

2. Sunsets that can cause accidents if your driving because they are so beautiful...

3. Learning the hard way that you DON'T touch those "fuzzy" cactus...

4. Twisting your ankle hiking through the beautiful mountains because you were looking at the view instead of the trail...

5. There are enough of us here already, please, don't come here...we don't share well here...

6. Rush hour can be a real trip, especially during the winter when the snowbirds are here...but we love them anyway...

7. Having to watch for Mountain lions while hiking in Sabino canyon...(but realizing how lucky you are if you DO see one)...

8. Trying to take in all the diversity in culture, food and art here can be a killer if you try to do it all in one weekend....

9. Eating just ONE Native American fry bread out at San Xavier...

10. Trying to get a seat at the Easter Morning services at San Xavier...

Ozark Nana
Ozark Nana, I love that post! ^_^ Thanks for writing it! ^_^

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Old 02-06-2008, 12:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by AZ missing TN View Post
OhioTim
I've lived in Tucson for 4 years and can't wait to leave. I've had my car broken into several times, identity theft (highest in the nation), embezzled, and two of our dogs have developed cancer. Not saying AZ caused it but I have seen a big decline in their health as well as mine since we've moved here. I've never had allergies in my life until last year. It's very dusty and dirty here. Friendly people??? the only friendly peope I've met were very far and few. Most are gold diggers and back stabbers. Which I realize is everywhere. I've lived in several places and would never come back here. I'm looking forward to the day I say "GOOD BYE!!!!!!"
I think that some of you who hate it there live IN THE CITY.
In the foothills (if you can afford it), it's not dirty (just
good clean desert sand/dust ^_^), SOME of the people
tend to be friendly, etc. (If you live way out in the desert,
you may have more wildlife around than some people would
want, and yes, there IS pollution and dirt in the city, so
I'd recommend in-between, on the outskirts of the city.)
(The last few times I visited Tucson, several years ago
now, I was in the city, and I didn't think that it was so
great. Pollution and seedy motels and stuff like that.
But you know what? I don't like CITIES. I don't much
like, or want to live in, the "city" part of Denver. But
the Denver AREA and the Tucson AREA are both pretty
good. [It does sound like the CITY part of Tucson has
continued slipping downward a bit more since I was
last there, though!])

I lived at the edge of Tucson, just barely outside the
city limit, near River Road. It was BEAUTIFUL, peaceful,
we had practically ZERO crime, etc. Of course this was
in the 1980's, and of course I've really never spent more
than a few days IN THE CITY in Tucson. But I think that
some of you who hate the bad aspects need to realize
that maybe you've just been living in the wrong part
of town (maybe not in the poor part of town, but in one
of the several not-so-safe parts!!!).

I also think that Ozark Nana has made some good points
about looking on the bright side...^_^

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Old 02-06-2008, 12:36 AM
 
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A quote from page 2 of this thread...

Quote:
5 - Worst schools in the country, education here is a joke
Ah, but then again, Arizona does have fairly good/simple/
easy-to-follow homeschooling laws...^_^

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Old 02-06-2008, 12:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by heatheryork View Post
10 reasons to move TO Tucson
1. Sunshine, it generally makes people happier. (generally)
2. Golfing and hiking year round.
3. Diversity of climate. Just the other day, there was snow on Mt. Lemmon and it was in the 80's in the valley.
4. Absolutely beautiful scenery, if you look at it from above, it is surprisingly almost completely green.
5. So many things to do Colossal Cave, the State Parks, Saguaro Desert Museum, Titan Missile Museum, Wildlife Museum, Reid Park Zoo, Pima Air and Space Museum, Historical Society Museum. Then not too far away Sedona, The Grand Canyon, The Petrified Forest, many lakes, mining towns like Tombstone, Mexico, and bordering states.
6. No raking, shoveling, or mowing.
7. Warm, dry climate is great for a lot of health issues.
8. You can wear shorts on Christmas. Actually you can wear the same clothes pretty much year round. Just make sure you wash them.
9. Health care. Because of the abundance of more mature persons, we have great hospitals, including ones that specialize in the heart and cancer.
10. And to bring it full circle. The people are happier, because of the sunshine! If you're in Tucson and don't believe me, you need to go get some.
Thank you for your #5, I am so fed up with people saying
that there's "nothing to do" (untrue unless you hate doing
things from which you just might learn something!!! ^_~)
(yes, I was a homeschooler kid in Tucson, I learned for fun,
and I sure as heck did NOT do homework/schoolwork for
"fun", I learned and played instead!!! =^___^=).

I think you forgot to mention the planetarium. ^_^ Oh,
and theater...not as much theater as in Denver, but I do
remember seeing some good plays in Tucson. ^_^

Mount Lemmon...Picacho Peak...Old Tucson...

Tucson was FUN, when I was a kid, anyway. And back then,
most of the fun didn't cost much, either. ^_^ Of course,
by now the prices will have increased (darn it)...but a lot
of the fun places and activities are still there, so I've heard. ^_^

I used to take a lot of arts and crafts classes at the
Tucson Museum of Art School. And go to a lot of libraries,
including a tiny one in a trailer in a mostly-Mexican part of
town. (There were so many kids' activities at so many
different libraries, it was difficult to choose which ones to
participate in! ^_^) (Not just dumb stuff, either. GOOD
stuff. Chinese New Year and that kind of thing [the tiny
trailer library had kids being a Chinese New Year dragon
outside! ^_^].)

Oh, and to whoever said that you can see lots of stars
in the night sky in Marana: Definitely! ^_^

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Old 02-13-2008, 04:46 PM
 
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My husband and I moved here last October and absolutely love it here. I'm a native New Yorker and he is originally for San Diego. We met in Arlington, TX. I can honestly say it is a million times better than Arlington, TX (near DFW). We are currently renting a 4 bedroom/2 bath house on the Northeast side off of Pantano near Speedway for $1500 a month. It is over 2200 sq ft with a huge backyard and a pond. It has a three car garage and there is plenty of place between us and our neighbors. In NYC, you couldn't get a decent studio apartment for that price!

We will be buying a house sometime this year - most definitely in the Northeast side as we have watched the houses drop $50K since last June and they are still not selling. There is no reason to in buy a house now while prices are still dropping. And anyone who thinks they can sell their house at 2004-05 prices is not being realistic. There are 7 homes for sale in our immediate neighborhood that would have sold 2 years ago for $375K - now they are NOT even selling for $295K and have been on the market since last October.

I had no problem getting a job with Raytheon and I am not an engineer.

The restaurants are good here and great in the Foothills. I have no problem with the traffic on the Northeast side. Rush hour here is like rush hour anywhere else. The mountains are beautiful and the people are really friendly. There is plently do to here on the weekends if you love the outdoors. I haven't experienced the summer's yet but I love the heat and really - how much time do you spend outdoors in really hot weather if you work fulltime?

The only thing I can't find is a good dry cleaners that isn't outrageously expensive - $5 per piece is robbery...

I haven't noticed any trash on the Northeast side or throughout the Foothills... Though I really don't spend anytime on the Southwest side other than my ride to and from work. The junkyard across from the Air Force base is an eyesore and could have better fencing the would hide the broken up helicopters, etc better.

I have heard that the school system isn't the best but I grew up in NYC and went to public schools there - and education is what you make of it... There are decent teachers in every school who are willing to teach if a child is willing to learn.

So I recommend giving Tucson a try... Rent for a while before buying a place... and good luck!!!!
 
Old 02-14-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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Ditto and then some. Listen to the lady or you will regret it. I find that, like my husband, men seem to have an easier transition. It's much more difficult for women. Would anyone else agree?
I'm a male and I totally hated AZ. Too hot IMO from April - Nov. I felt like a prisoner with the hot and persistent sun
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