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Old 02-17-2009, 12:41 PM
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I live in Chicago and every year I head down to Cochise County to relax and mellow out. Every city has crime, every city has its poverty. I have found that the loudest complainers are the people who have never traveled outside of their local area or they don't even live in the area they are complaining about, yet they are an authority on all that is wrong with the area.
Everyone needs something different in life, I prefer the peacefulness of the desert not nightlife in a bar. I read the Tucson Citizen & The Tucson Weekly so I'm not blind to what goes on out there. Life is what you make it, you can choose to live or you can live afraid. "You have nothing to fear but fear itself"
Any campers out there or history buffs that can point me toward some local folklore?
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:28 AM
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All of this criticism is overblown. Tucson is a great place to live.

I lived in Seattle for 18 years and if you want to live in a sad, overpriced, over-rated place, then Seattle is it. $8 for a glass of wine and $500,000 for a two-bedroom crackerbox with NO SUNSHINE for 8 months out of the year. Yes, Tucson may have its shabby parts, but what I love about it is it's a REGULAR city. It has reasonable food and home prices, it has SUN 350 days of the year, and it's not on the media's radar map -- yet.

In another 5 or 10 years, businesses will discover how beautiful the mountains are, how bike friendly the city is, how green it's becoming, and will want to move here! And that will bring moneyed yuppies and then everyone on this list, instead of griping about a roach that comes up once every 3 years when the city treats the water, will be griping about how expensive it is and how the friendly, laid-back lifestyle has been lost. I would just enjoy Tucson as it is because living in a Forbes Magazine Top 5 city isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I wake up in the Old Pueblo every day and appreciate everything from the 4th Avenue art scene to the "desert rat" neighbor down my street.
Right. The ONLY reason to live in Tucson is the winter weather.

As for your theory on businesses moving here. LOL. They are fleeing Tucson, not coming here. The population is too poorly educated, the schools basically stink, and executives who run companies want better infrastructure and quality of life for their families. You can forget about Tucson ever being a magnet for businesses.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:45 PM
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As for your theory on businesses moving here. LOL. They are fleeing Tucson, not coming here. The population is too poorly educated, the schools basically stink, and executives who run companies want better infrastructure and quality of life for their families. You can forget about Tucson ever being a magnet for businesses.
I would really like to know out where you get your information. Because frankly, I cannot verify anything you say. Everything that I can find shows that Tucson is one of the fastest growing cities in High Tech in the country. I cannot find anywhere that has any information about companies leaving Tucson or Arizona for that matter.

So far you haven't backed anything you state. So are we supose to just believe that you are the foremost expert in everything and that you do not need to back anything that you state?
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Right. The ONLY reason to live in Tucson is the winter weather. ...
That would be true for Spot.

You sound truly miserable here. Why on earth do you stay?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:33 PM
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That would be true for Spot.

You sound truly miserable here. Why on earth do you stay?

I am moving in May. But the winters here are awesome. :-)
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:05 PM
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I am moving in May. But the winters here are awesome. :-)
Sorry to hear Tucson has been so terrible for you. I've lived here all my life and never had any problems... my biggest problem in Tucson would be the weeds. My biggest frustration is being stuck behind a slow driver who doesn't care how much of their life they spend behind the wheel driving. Heck I even have a great job where I work from home almost every day of the week... so my morning commute is the journey to my laptop in the kitchen.
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I would really like to know out where you get your information. Because frankly, I cannot verify anything you say. Everything that I can find shows that Tucson is one of the fastest growing cities in High Tech in the country. I cannot find anywhere that has any information about companies leaving Tucson or Arizona for that matter
You challenge Spot to verification? I call out the same to you ... please provide confirmation that Tucson is 'one of the fastest growing cities in High Tech' in the country.

I anxiously await your reply.
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You challenge Spot to verification? I call out the same to you ... please provide confirmation that Tucson is 'one of the fastest growing cities in High Tech' in the country.

I anxiously await your reply.
Excuse me if I butt in, but here's a couple of things:

"November 2007 - Tucson was named the 3rd-best "digital city" for the second year in a row according to the 2007 Digital Cities Survey. The city's online services and the wireless network ER-Link used for emergency telemedicine are credited for Tucson's ranking. The Center for Digital Government conducted the annual survey, basing its results on interviews with mayors, city managers and chief information officers from cities nationwide with more than 250,000 residents.

Sept. 2008 - Tucson-based Paragon Space Development Corp. ranked ninth in a list of the top 50 engineering companies in the nation by Inc. magazine. The company, founded in 1993, was No. 1 under aerospace engineering. The aerospace engineering and technology development firm specializes in life support in extreme environments.

• July 2008 - Tucson Electric Power (TEP) was ranked among the top 10 “most solar integrated utilities” by the Solar Power Association. TEP earned recognition for both its company-owned installations and for the photovoltaic systems hundreds of customer have installed on their rooftops through the company’s SunShare program.

• July 2008 - The "Webometrics Ranking of World Universities" an initiative of the Cybermetrics Lab, a research group belonging to the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas (CSIC) - the largest public research body in Spain - ranked the University of Arizona # 21 in the ranking of the top 4000 universities of the world."

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"Fast Company magazine ranked Tucson as a Top 10 "Fast City" in 2005. A Fast City is one that offers dense concentrations of talented people, tolerance of differences, and a great quality of life."

That was 2005 of course - not sure what the status is with the economy being what it is now.

There is a significant amount of high-tech companies in the Tucson area. Not nearly what we have up here in Seattle mind you, but still, a significant amount.

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You challenge Spot to verification? I call out the same to you ... please provide confirmation that Tucson is 'one of the fastest growing cities in High Tech' in the country.

I anxiously await your reply.
If you read my posts, most times I have links. They are not difficult to find, especially when they are on the City-Data site.

http://www.city-data.com/us-cities/T...n-Economy.html

Tucson's New Economy | High-tech Cluster Industries

Southern Arizona's Hi-Tech Connection

Benchmarks : Economic & Business Research Center : The Eller College of Management at the University of Arizona
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:47 PM
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I feel an extremely high level of testosterone in the air here.
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