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07-09-2009, 09:46 PM
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1st Amendment, RIP!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson
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Originally Posted by Chorizo
Wheres that mangy burro at when you need him!?
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Read this page! Pay attention to the poster Muleskinner!
http://www.city-data.com/forum/relat...ml#post9688946
I finally found a solution for our pony problem!  
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07-09-2009, 09:49 PM
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Guardian of the Arid Zone
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Baja Arizona
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Originally Posted by Chorizo
You have a tail? That is odd. I did not see one in your picture. Did ZP bite it off?
Lucky bastard.
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Originally Posted by sierraAZ
Guess you should ask him what it tastes like...  I'm not into tooting my own horn.
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Phony Baloney's killin' me... 
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07-09-2009, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Little Rock AR
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Originally Posted by flyyy
I know nothing will really happen, but I just want to be sure I'm kinda safe.
Pepper spray acts like a disabler mostly, so I know its not that safe.
But, I just like the feeling of being kinda safe at night and at the college grounds.
So, anyone know where I can buy pepper spray here?
Does swap meet? or anyplace here?
I don't want to buy it online
Thank You
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Any good gun store - unless you live in a state which doesn't have guns. 
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07-10-2009, 04:40 AM
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Bigun's Doggie Mom
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"Accepting the NOW"
(set 20 days ago)
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Seeing the country from an old RV
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Last time I was there, I saw it at Big 5. I suspect any sporting goods, outfitters, etc. You can buy ones small enough to clip to your keychain.
Caution: It's good to have it, but don't rely upon it to keep you safe in unsafe situations. Your first precaution should always be common sense. Stay in areas where there are others, don't take shortcuts through areas where lurkers can be hiding. Regardless of where you are, stay alert to your surroundings. You don't have to be paranoid, just alert. It's been shown that attackers tend to hit people that are not paying attention.
If you are ever attacked, while spraying your pepper spray, remember to scream LOUD, "FIRE." Amazingly enough, people avoid a situation where people are calling for help, especially when there are others nearby. Everyone thinks someone ELSE will do something. For some reason, the idea of fire gets people's attentions. I was attacked in '90, and I screamed "Help, I'm sick." I don't know why I chose those words, but the person that came to my aide did so because he heard a sick woman calling for help. (???)
There are also small sirens on the market, if you really want to get people's attentions, that you can trigger if you are confronted by an aggressor. They probably do more to scare off that person than to bring help, but they don't think of that at the time.
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07-10-2009, 05:07 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Phoenix
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Instead of pepper-spray or mace, you should get a collapsible baton. I got one for my fiance when she was bartending after a scary experience with someone after work. You can just whip it out and it's definitely more of a psychology deterrent than a little can of pepper spray.
Batons Expandable Steel Baton :Collapsible Police Batons- Tactical Batons- ASP Tactical Batons
She carrys a glock now, but the baton defiantly made her feel much safer.
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07-10-2009, 05:26 AM
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Bigun's Doggie Mom
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Until the aggressor takes it from her and uses it on her... 8(
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07-10-2009, 05:40 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by LookinForMayberry
Until the aggressor takes it from her and uses it on her... 8(
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Why give them the chance? If you are a woman, you should at least learn some basic self defense.
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07-10-2009, 10:23 AM
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I am a conundrum!
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Originally Posted by LookinForMayberry
Last time I was there, I saw it at Big 5. I suspect any sporting goods, outfitters, etc. You can buy ones small enough to clip to your keychain.
Caution: It's good to have it, but don't rely upon it to keep you safe in unsafe situations. Your first precaution should always be common sense. Stay in areas where there are others, don't take shortcuts through areas where lurkers can be hiding. Regardless of where you are, stay alert to your surroundings. You don't have to be paranoid, just alert. It's been shown that attackers tend to hit people that are not paying attention.
If you are ever attacked, while spraying your pepper spray, remember to scream LOUD, "FIRE." Amazingly enough, people avoid a situation where people are calling for help, especially when there are others nearby. Everyone thinks someone ELSE will do something. For some reason, the idea of fire gets people's attentions. I was attacked in '90, and I screamed "Help, I'm sick." I don't know why I chose those words, but the person that came to my aide did so because he heard a sick woman calling for help. (???)
There are also small sirens on the market, if you really want to get people's attentions, that you can trigger if you are confronted by an aggressor. They probably do more to scare off that person than to bring help, but they don't think of that at the time.
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Overall, this is pretty decent advice. Pepper-spray (if that is all you are carrying) should be your last route to safety. The idea is to not get into any situations at all. Don't walk alone on dark streets. If it looks like someone strange might approach you, take the nearest exit out of the area, etc.
If you do get some spray, remember that if you are in a situation you think you might need to use it, you need to be sure that person is coming at you in a threatening/harmful manner, but you need to get them before they close in to arms length with you, if at all possible.
Get two cans of the stuff. Get out in the desert and test fire one. make sure you are shooting with the wind so it does not blow back in your face.
Look and get a feel for how the spray comes out, how far it goes, does it mist? Is it a stream of liquid?
In a self defense situation, most instructors will usually tell you to warn your assailant before actually using the spray. "Do not come closer or I will spray you!!!"
When it comes to using the spray itself, aim for the chin, then adjust properly. Getting it in their eyes will temporarily blind them, but getting it in the nose/mouth to the mucus membranes is what really puts the hurt on them.
No matter what self defense route you take, try to get some proper training.
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
Why give them the chance? If you are a woman, you should at least learn some basic self defense.
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The batons are definitely a good tool, provided you know what you are doing with it. I think for most women (really most people) however - they would prefer to stop an attacker from a distance, rather than letting them come in and possibly get hurt themselves.
Trading up for a Glock is good though!
Double-tap to the chest is a lot more efficient than some hot sauce, or a metal stick! 
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07-10-2009, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Phoenix
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True. Those tazers that shoot the prongs into your skin, those will take you to the ground, granted you have a good aim, and can get it out in time.
She would walk to her car with her hand in her purse with her hand around the baton, if she needed to she could whip it out quick, it extends, and she was good to go. Luckily she never had to use it.
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07-10-2009, 01:49 PM
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I am a conundrum!
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
True. Those tazers that shoot the prongs into your skin, those will take you to the ground, granted you have a good aim, and can get it out in time.
She would walk to her car with her hand in her purse with her hand around the baton, if she needed to she could whip it out quick, it extends, and she was good to go. Luckily she never had to use it.
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Back when Diamondback first started carrying those tasers, I was in there talking with a gentleman named Jim, who sadly does not work there any longer. The conversation turned to how the law enforcement officers were getting the training on them, and that each one was tased, so they knew what it felt like.
Somehow he offered to tase me, on the condition that I'd pay him $20 to pay for the spent cartridge. Thinking I was getting the smelly end of the deal, I politely declined.
They certainly are effective. I have a friend who is a bit disturbed, and has some messed up nerve endings or something. You can get a running start and delivery a punt style kick directly to his manparts, and he will show no visible sign of pain or distress, he says he does not feel it. Once I got him hard enough to knock him to the ground, from the force of the kick - he got up and went on like it was nothing. (oh the things you do to your friends for kicks when you're all drunk, young, and stupid!). Poor guy probably wont ever have children..
Anyway, this same guy says he does not feel pain. I've never seen him show any signs of it for anything. I almost believe him. He was drunk one night - long story short, the cops showed up, he was beligerant and combative. He got tased. They drained the damn battery on him. I was not there but I heard from a friend who was, that he was on the ground in a flash, twitching, and screaming like a 4 yr old girl. I think they work perty darn good!
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