Barrio Style (Tucson, Miami: neighborhood, to live, Hispanics)

[Chorizo]

Originally Posted by ZonyPony

Yeah... she does have her moments...

If by moments you mean "when she is awake", then sure.

[ZonyPony]

Originally Posted by Chorizo

If by moments you mean "when she is awake", then sure.

Mamma loves her nappy-time!

[Chorizo]

Originally Posted by ZonyPony

Mamma loves her nappy-time!

Wait a minute..

Whose mamma are we talking about anyway!?

[ZonyPony]

Originally Posted by Chorizo

Wait a minute..

Whose mamma are we talking about anyway!?

Hmmm...

[azhiker]

Originally Posted by JillBoBill

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Wikipedia says... "More commonly, however, in the United States, barrios refer to lower-class neighborhoods with largely Spanish-speaking residents, basically the Latino equivalent of a "ghetto". The word often implies that the poverty level is high in such a neighborhood, but this inference is not universal." So... it's a crummy house in a bad neighborhood?

What does this really mean?

Interesting about barrios. I think it is a more distinctly ethnic thing rather than necessarily broadly used for all latino neighborhoods. I used to live in Miami and never once heard a neighborhood referred to as a barrio. I think its usage is more commonly associated with Mexican neighborhoods here in the states. I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

[robertjohnson]

Originally Posted by ZonyPony

Hi, J,JBB... good topic! Tucson definitely has neighborhoods with "Barrio" titles.

However, barrio has always only meant neighborhood in the Spanish language. For some reason, unbeknownst to many in the Hispanic culture, the word has plummeted, and taken on a bad "ghetto-like" meaning.

Granted, there are some bad neighorhoods everywhere. However, there are good and decent hard-working people who are of Hispanic backgrounds, who happen to have lower incomes, which live in certain of these neighborhoods (or barrios) which may be considered less than desirable. Unfortunately, they may be lumped in with those people who also live there and are undesirable!

Barrios (and Hispanics), unfortunately, receive not only that kind of evaluation, but this kind as well:
"Oh, I know an Hispanic family down the street, BUT they're very nice people!"
Its like saying: I know a Scandanavian family down the street, BUT they're very nice people!"

These are cultural habits that will need to be dealt with before there is much understanding amongst the different ethnic groups in Tucson - or anywhere.

Is your point that not every Mexican lives down to stereotypical expectations? Please note where I underlined.

[Charles22]

It doesn't mean that there's always trash on the street?

[Dobermanjt]

Originally Posted by robertjohnson

Is your point that not every Mexican lives down to stereotypical expectations? Please note where I underlined.

I can't speak for ZonyPony, but the impression I got from his post was that he was trying to make the point that honest, hardworking people that happen to live in not-so-great neighborhoods are often viewed as one and the same as people that may exemplify negative stereotypes.

Simply put, some people think that if you live in a "bad" neighborhood, you must be poor/degenerate/criminal/lazy.

Of course, ZP could have meant something totally different, that is just the meaning I inferred from his statement.

[JillBoBill]

... I want a compound.

[ZonyPony]

Originally Posted by Dobermanjt

I can't speak for ZonyPony, but the impression I got from his post was that he was trying to make the point that honest, hardworking people that happen to live in not-so-great neighborhoods are often viewed as one and the same as people that may exemplify negative stereotypes.

Simply put, some people think that if you live in a "bad" neighborhood, you must be poor/degenerate/criminal/lazy.

Of course, ZP could have meant something totally different, that is just the meaning I inferred from his statement.

My good Dobie! You inferred what was implied correctly!