What Do You Think Of Tulsa? (Claremore, Seminole: apartments, to rent, crime rate)

[Mattie Jo]

Jammie,

I lived in the panhandle, and that was the area that I didn't like. I wanted to come back and post that perhaps all of Florida's people are not so rude as others made it out to be. Maybe the racism isn't as bad as the panhandle either.

We had a hurricane come into the panhandle, and so we went up north to a motel. When we can back the eye was in New Orleans, but we didn't know about tornado spinoffs, and so we could have been in danger because it was just as windy. I saw the destruction and didn't feel comfortable after that.

San Antonio was okay. The people were friendly, but the trees were mostly brush oak. Then it was boring. You can only see Riverwalk a few times. I was glad when we moved to Laredo because I loved Mexico. It was 90 percent Hispanic, and if I had known more Spanish it would have been more interesting. I didn't have time to be bored because we only stayed for a few months before moving to Corpus Christi. But I loved going to Nuevo Laredo to shop. That would have been boring in time. Corpus was boring from the minute we moved there, and after a few months we headed back to CA.

I suppose living in a small town like Tahlequah could get boring, but we own a home and then I have joined clubs and made friends, and all of that make this place exciting. Plus the area is just so beautiful.

[Synopsis]

I couldn't really handle the humidity in a place like Corpus. I've been there a few times and although it gets bad up here in North Texas, and in Oklahoma, it lasts longer down there and there aren't really any seasons.

[Flasher]

I've lived in T-Town for 29 years and have experienced attitudes from all over the area. Doesn't matter where you go, some areas are less friendly than others. Some areas are kind of snooty and others down right unfriendly. It can be as friendly as you can be at times too, just like anywhere else.

I now live in Catoosa which is East of Tulsa by about 5-7 miles and people out here, after a year of being here, are rather offish if that's even a word. If they don't know you, they keep you at a distance and don't engage. Maybe they see their little towns getting too big or something. Can't blame them as I prefer smaller town life myself.

[JameeLynn25]

Jesaka, the reason I was asking so many questions about Fl is cause I am going there in 2 weeks. Some people say its great others, well not so much. I know everyone has different opinions. Like you mentioned, I think its what area your in too. Winter is coming soon here in Mn. I would love to be in Ok. from October-March, well who I am kidding I would love to be there in the summer too! Flasher, I know not everyone in Ok welcomes everyone with open arms and you find some people to be snotty. Its funny you feel that way, I feel that way about the people in Mn. Maybe its becasue we have lived in a certain area for so long we just happen to notice all the "bad" things more than the positive. Just be thankful you dont have the worst winters in the U.S. like Mn.

[Mattie Jo]

JameeLynn,

People here have welcomed me with open arms in spite of my being from CA. I think it does depend on where you live. I know I went to Locust Grove one day and couldn't believe how friendly people were. I would be walking into a store when someone was walking out and get "hellos" as if people knew me. And I thought that Tahlequah was friendly. But Locust Grove is a very small town.

[JameeLynn25]

In my personal experience I was welcomed with open arms I was treated with the most respect in my life when I visited Tulsa. Flasher has a different view on that. Say, I heard the gov. of Ok. passed a new law on immigrants? Is this true?

[Mattie Jo]

Jammie, Yes the governor passed laws, but I think they are being challenged.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by jessaka

Jammie, Yes the governor passed laws, but I think they are being challenged.

They will always be challenged by twisted freaks, but I don't think the laws will be overturned by the courts.

[Jammie]

Originally Posted by JameeLynn25

In my personal experience I was welcomed with open arms I was treated with the most respect in my life when I visited Tulsa. Flasher has a different view on that. Say, I heard the gov. of Ok. passed a new law on immigrants? Is this true?

YES, if you follow a permanent re-direct on this Ok forum, it will take you to the Immigration Forum section. The full info and discussions are there.

Also, Tulsa has also made laws prohibiting the hiring of illegals. Actually, that should be a given so I don't understand WHY we have to have laws for it, but guess it's come to that now.

[Zoe51]

Originally Posted by peggydavis

I'm quoting this article I found on the internet. I'm not saying I agree with everything the guy says, or that white people live up to the qualities he is talking about. It just reminds me of the kind values many of us in Oklahoma aspire to have.

NATIVE PEOPLES AND THE LEFT [Hunter Gray] Posted 7/8/02


"And again, there is another unchanging dimension: that mountain of Native commitment -- of all Native people, whoever and wherever -- to a cohesive family and clan, to one's tribal nation [essentially one big family] and to its inherent sovereignty and self-determination; and to the critical values so deeply rooted in the tribal cultures: strongly religious, a pervasive identification with the whole Creation, no coincidence or happen-chance in the Universe, an essentially communalistic view of land use, democracy, egalitarianism, classlessness. And all of this is in the context of the fundamental principle of tribal [mutual] responsibility: i.e., the society has an obligation to the individual and the individual has an obligation to the society; if these conflict, the position of the society prevails -- but there are certain clearly defined areas of individual and family autonomy into which the society -- the tribe -- cannot intrude."

Thanks for putting in your 2c. Can you post the link to the article you quoted. It is very interesing. I hope to be checking out Tulsa next month and it is sounding more positive as I read the different posts in this forum.