Tulsa's New Arena (Wagoner, May: safety, requirement, location)

[Synopsis]

Awesome photos TU. Thanks.

[New In Prue]

I notice tonight a hub-bub of activity in the freight area at back. I guess they're getting ready for the shipments of over 18,000 seats beginning next week. Not much activity on the front - the soffits, glass, etc. I think they will be doing more than "fine-tuning" from June to August. I suspect they will be working night and day to finish in time for the Grand Opening. There is just a ton of work remaining to be done, inside and out, plus landscaping and lighting.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by New In Prue

I notice tonight a hub-bub of activity in the freight area at back. I guess they're getting ready for the shipments of over 18,000 seats beginning next week. Not much activity on the front - the soffits, glass, etc. I think they will be doing more than "fine-tuning" from June to August. I suspect they will be working night and day to finish in time for the Grand Opening. There is just a ton of work remaining to be done, inside and out, plus landscaping and lighting.

Ya, I just hope they don't sacrifice quality. I guess with rotating crews it can be done. There really won't be a lot of time for fine tuning. I wonder if Mr. Pelli maintains an interest in this as it is going together, or is he hands off once the design is accepted. I would think he has his eyes on this as it develops. I'd like to think he has some control over the quality of work as well.

[New In Prue]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

...I wonder if Mr. Pelli maintains an interest in this as it is going together...

It wouldn't surprise me if Mr. Pelli doesn't "tune in" to the webcam on a regular basis...:-)

[TU 'cane]

The architects are required to follow up on all their projects they design. It's part of their job.

[New In Prue]

Originally Posted by TU 'cane

The architects are required to follow up on all their projects they design. It's part of their job.

I'm not sure that Cesar Pelli is responsible for anything more than the concept and broad-brush issues, since he lent only his name, his genius, and conceptual drawings, etc. The actual responsibility for design details was handed off to Matrix, a team of local architects, who, in turn, hand over the details of making the idea work, to structural engineers. There are probably a hundred architects and engineers taking part in putting this building together.

Architects' fees used to be 7% of the total cost of the project; I don't know what they are now. And I don't know if Pelli's fee came out of that, or was in addition to that, but you can bet he was amply compensated. And I'm sure he is very interested in how it turns out, and probably consults on a regular basis with the local architects.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by New In Prue

I'm not sure that Cesar Pelli is responsible for anything more than the concept and broad-brush issues, since he lent only his name, his genius, and conceptual drawings, etc. The actual responsibility for design details was handed off to Matrix, a team of local architects, who, in turn, hand over the details of making the idea work, to structural engineers. There are probably a hundred architects and engineers taking part in putting this building together.

Architects' fees used to be 7% of the total cost of the project; I don't know what they are now. And I don't know if Pelli's fee came out of that, or was in addition to that, but you can bet he was amply compensated. And I'm sure he is very interested in how it turns out, and probably consults on a regular basis with the local architects.

I know if I had my name on the design of something so cutting edge, I'd be sure and make sure the work was performed up to snuff..

[TU 'cane]

Originally Posted by New In Prue

I'm not sure that Cesar Pelli is responsible for anything more than the concept and broad-brush issues, since he lent only his name, his genius, and conceptual drawings, etc. The actual responsibility for design details was handed off to Matrix, a team of local architects, who, in turn, hand over the details of making the idea work, to structural engineers. There are probably a hundred architects and engineers taking part in putting this building together.

Architects' fees used to be 7% of the total cost of the project; I don't know what they are now. And I don't know if Pelli's fee came out of that, or was in addition to that, but you can bet he was amply compensated. And I'm sure he is very interested in how it turns out, and probably consults on a regular basis with the local architects.

Ah yes, I forgot they handed it off to Matrix. Well either way it's good sportsmanship to follow up on your desgins.. Especially one so unique

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Have you noticed that the "BOK" logo has been moved up, and to the right, of its original location on the scale model? It would almost make me think that they have deleted the top "ribbon" - the narrow horizontal band - from the plan.

[New In Prue]

If you're familiar with Tulsa, you know about "Amity", the almost-40-yr-old stainless steel abstract art in front of City Hall. If plans go through to convert the city hall complex to a hotel, "Amity"s days are numbered. What to do with "Amity"?



Well, I think it fits perfectly with the stainless steel futuristic lines of the Arena. Anyone else agree on this one? Another thing: we could save the 1% (?) fee that is mandated on new public facilities. I think it would look great on the west entrance to the Arena.