Is it True that Tulsa OK. is Poor and Backward (Oklahoma City: credit, income)

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Originally Posted by OKC

From what shad or whoever posted about tulsas art scene. he is correct. the underground art scene dominates(grassroots) in okc. The one museum(not two) is beautiful- but if you are an artist in the current field you would only see the Philbrook as architecture. when the old population dies off in tulsa-then a real emergence will begin.

That's a sound opinion coming from someone that is obviously unbiased in their opinion with a nickname of OKC. So, an established, world-class art center is viewed by other artists as only "architecture" and not appreciated for what it is? I would question these artists' ability to judge art if that is their opinion.

So where are the statistics to back up the bustling "underground" art scene in OkC? Do the artists in Oklahoma take a poll and vote on the best city for art? OkC (or should I say Shad?), you have nothing to back up your claims other than ambiguous "facts" about the renaissance of art in Oklahoma City versus Tulsa. The fact is that Tulsa is home to TWO world-class art museums, and the city itself boasts architecture in downtown and surrounding areas that is in itself art - at its very finest.

I know that people in Oklahoma City have quite a bad taste in their mouth over Tulsa's perceived status as the cultural center of the state and it's rubbed them the wrong way for decades. The fact is that Tulsa is flush with art and beautiful, historical buildings as a direct result of the money that was poured into the city for decades during the 20s and 30s - and there's nothing that anyone can do to take that away. Perhaps OkC is doing a lot to try and change that perception, but for now - that is all that it is - a perception that is held mostly by folks in and around OkC.

There's obviously a lot of pent up frustration and a need for some kind of competition between the two cities in your view; why can't you just let things stand as they are and face the fact that the two cities are what they are - two very different places that have been that way for some time. Perhaps one day OkC will emerge as some sort of cultural center in Oklahoma, but for now and for a good time in the foreseeable future, that isn't the case no matter how much you'd like for it to be that way.

[shad8974]

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Two museums for tulsa. actually the arts are greater in Okc at the present time. more galleries in okc and norman. More shows happen in okc/norman/metro- thats why. OU the only research institute in the state for the arts. OVAC/IAO in OKC- MEANS BIG DEAL FOR THE ARTS. More artists in residence, my dad is one of them- Remember the cracked bronze for tulsas river-showing how it dries up every year.Look it up- you are living in the past.

[19hsm]

Wow, this argument is pointless. And has nothing to do with the OP.

[iamgin]

"A good example of their (our) warmness is when driving the rurual roads of Oklahoma you'll often have complete strangers wave at you as they pass going the opposite direction. No, it's not the middle finger as you'll get in other places, it's just an acknowledgement that they recognize you as a fellow traveler and are wishing you well."

i love that! i've been to a few other places, and in some other towns if you even just LOOK at someone you pass, omg, you've ruined their day by making eye contact. here it's almost rude not to wave. or at least raise a forefinger of acknowledgement. :P

[happytown]

I would have to concur with the above poster 19hsm. How out of control can two posters be in order to claim an opinion? The topic involved tulsa being a poor and backward city. I believe it has its good and bad. The above posters both had true statements about the arguement regarding the thread. Oklahoma is considered, by many, to be poor and backward. We are behind most states in many areas ,this should be a concern for people that rely on vital information for relocation. For me it depends on how happy you are with the environment you live in.

[Honeybee]

Thank you all for you comments .I have already bought my new Home in Broken Arrow and plan on moving there in June .

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Best of luck to you and I wish you and yours all the best Honeybee! I'm sure that you'll be very, very happy.
Cheers,

[Novear]

Tulsa is a wonderful City there are lot's of thing to do and see. It's to bad all the out siders have moved in to turn us into a big City. The the crime and Gangs I grew up in Tulsa, Movie on the green and concerts. Brookside and county. I have moved around a lot the past 10 years and Tulsa is the most warm city where doors are open for strangers and smiles are all ways around

[TomWatsonB]

South Tulsa is great! They only part of Tulsa that isn't decent is North Tulsa. Even though parts of East and West aren't that great, they are reasonably good, and not backwards. All of the suburbs are good, with the exception of parts of Sand Springs and Sapulpa, especially.

[jeffncandace]

I can't even believe the title of this thread...I was born and raised in Southern California and lived in Tulsa during my late teens/early 20's from 1993 to 1999. Since when is Tulsa poor and backward? I found it to be a beautiful city, especially in the midtown area. Tulsa has an extensive amount of Art Deco buildings, and in midtown, alot of Greek-Revival mansions from the 1920's. South Tulsa especially is flush with new money and McMansions. Like everywhere on the planet earth, it has it's good and bad parts, but since when is the whole city bad?
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