A BOK arena or sacrificial altar? (Tulsa, Temple: loan, subsidized, taxi)

[infotechsailor]

Tulsa can't afford what we have already built, much less subsidize a stadium that our economy can't afford to fill.

read this article at:
BOk Arena or Mayan Temple? - Of bloodletting, sacrificial offerings and other grotesqueries - Columns - OpEd - Urban Tulsa Weekly - Tulsa


what makes more sense, letting our businesses and economy grow until it can EASILY support an arena, and consistently fill the seats so easily that a private group of investors decide it would be profitable to build a stadium and put a pro team there... and do it all WITHOUT taxing us more...
OR
to borrow and tax and overbudget... overspend... subsidizing a VERY RISKY loan to put money with BOK and build this arena that we clearly can't afford, in hopes that MAYBE, just MAYBE a pro team would come to tulsa and use this arena. Don't be d[SIZE=3]elusional[/SIZE]... don't be a bonehead... this arena is a bad idea, wrong time, wrong way... I would be much more excited to see BOK build a big bank and create new jobs and tax revenue than to see them STEAL the HARD EARNED money from WORKING tulsan's in some desperate attempt to go pro.... wake up tulsa.

[BigOkie]

Originally Posted by infotechsailor

Tulsa can't afford what we have already built, much less subsidize a stadium that our economy can't afford to fill.

read this article at:
BOk Arena or Mayan Temple? - Of bloodletting, sacrificial offerings and other grotesqueries - Columns - OpEd - Urban Tulsa Weekly - Tulsa


what makes more sense, letting our businesses and economy grow until it can EASILY support an arena, and consistently fill the seats so easily that a private group of investors decide it would be profitable to build a stadium and put a pro team there... and do it all WITHOUT taxing us more...
OR
to borrow and tax and overbudget... overspend... subsidizing a VERY RISKY loan to put money with BOK and build this arena that we clearly can't afford, in hopes that MAYBE, just MAYBE a pro team would come to tulsa and use this arena. Don't be d[SIZE=3]elusional[/SIZE]... don't be a bonehead... this arena is a bad idea, wrong time, wrong way... I would be much more excited to see BOK build a big bank and create new jobs and tax revenue than to see them STEAL the HARD EARNED money from WORKING tulsan's in some desperate attempt to go pro.... wake up tulsa.

Let's see...about three years too late for this argument. Get new material please, as this is almost a year old article. You look like some of the people posting on the Tulsa World website.

[sgrizzle]

No-one's hoping for a pro team or paying for it on loan. Do some research.


Almost every arena built is paid for or subsidized by the local government. Sports teams (like the supersonics) require the city to build them up to date facilities or they move. We built it at the perfect time as the Ford Center will be closed a lot now for renovations and NBA events meaning there is actually probably going to be more headed this way than originally planned.

[Howest2008]

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TULSA hasn't built anything since the 1980's

read this article at:
BOk Arena or Mayan Temple? - Of bloodletting, sacrificial offerings and other grotesqueries - Columns - OpEd - Urban Tulsa Weekly - Tulsa

The people of every major metropolitan area in America have sacraficed
to build major urban architecture structures in their's cities....

what makes more sense, letting our businesses and economy grow until it can EASILY support an arena, and consistently fill the seats so easily that a private group of investors decide it would be profitable to build a stadium and put a pro team there... and do it all WITHOUT taxing us more...

The BOK Arena is already paid for out of VISION 2025 Funds...

OR
to borrow and tax and overbudget... overspend... subsidizing a VERY RISKY loan to put money with BOK and build this arena that we clearly can't afford, in hopes that MAYBE, just MAYBE a pro team would come to tulsa and use this arena. Don't be d[SIZE=3]elusional[/SIZE]... don't be a bonehead... this arena is a bad idea, wrong time, wrong way... I would be much more excited to see BOK build a big bank and create new jobs and tax revenue than to see them STEAL the HARD EARNED money from WORKING tulsan's in some desperate attempt to go pro.... wake up tulsa.[/quote]

BOK have already built a BIG BANK IN OKLAHOMA and TULSA , and the upper 1st tier of PROFESSIONAL SPORTS won't be in TULSA for another 8 to 12 YEARS , there is a OUTSIDE CHANCE THAT A NHL Team May Come To TULSA In 2 to 5 YEARS and ARENA FOOTBALL A 2nd Tier PROFESSIONAL SPORT may just come in 2 to 5 years also , "but" the "Commish" of either LEAGUE ARE GUARANTEE NOT TO ALLOW IT IF TULSA CAN"T SUPPORT MAJOR LEAGUE SPORTS.....