Young Adult Considering Tulsa (Muskogee, Miami: college, live, safe)
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Yes, compared to Texas, Tulsa probably looks very bountiful, and some pockets do have some nice (be it less dense) trees. To those of us from the East, Tulsa has less trees overall. To each his own as far as perspectives go. Some of these pictures are outdated - my university is located in one of them, and they have torn the majority of those trees down. But, I do think sarcasm plus a Bible verse really lessens the Bible verse's impact. Just my opinion, which I see is easily berated on this particular board.
Just offering a perspective evergreen. Your original post lended to a rather grave outlook of Tulsa and it's climate/habitat, which IMO was very biased and uncalled for.
Of course Tulsa won't be as lush as areas in Tennessee or Kentucky but again, it's all from a person's perspective. Tulsa is still a very lush and green city given it's location. Again, Louisville and Knoxville it is not, but it is still beautiful all the same.
BTW, just because my signature quotes a Bible verse doesn't mean I will not doll out criticism where it is deserved. Christians are humans just like everyone else.
Your opinions are valued, but you offered a rather cynical and non-factual perception of Tulsa when you said that mid-town was relatively treeless.
Tulsa is a very "green" city and the OP apparently thinks so as well after perusing through the photos that were offered up on this thread.
Well, my first post actually did mention the positives of south Tulsa, which I find to have very natural and lovely hills and trees - so, not all grave and negative! I think that was just attributed to me unfairly. I just mentioned I found mid-town to be relatively tree-less. Now, I admit instead of the word 'completely' I should have used 'comparatively' - that would have made a lot more sense and I think gotten my point across better. Unfortunately, the area of town with my business and work is not around these nice areas where the pictures have been taken, so that explains my perspective. Also, I live in a new neighborhood (so, no trees, which were torn down for construction) and the grass here tends to stay brown and dead all winter, unlike what I used to know in another state. So, I see very little, if any, green every day, again explaining my perspective. I would take pictures but I have neither the time nor the desire to see my neighborhood out here on the 'net! So, can we agree to disagree and move on?
By the way, please excuse my blanket statement (or rather, implication) about Texas. I have find parts of Texas to be very beautiful with trees and greenery. Much of Austin and the northern part of Houston can rival any area in OK.
Hopefully I have explained myself a bit better without getting defensive from feeling myself being 'under the attack'.
I think the point to take from this is that people's perspectives can vary quite a bit. Obviously those who call Tulsa home will less likely approve of anyone whose comparative perspectives fall considerably short of their own (i.e.: the "greenness" of the city). I am from Tennessee of course and I can see some of what evergreen101 is saying about the density, but the area still looks to satisfy my tastes in natural aesthetics. Saying that, I have not visited Tulsa and so although photos and Google's StreetView can say a lot, I would still like to see for myself--which I certainly plan on doing soon enough.
Since this will be my first actual move out on to my own (I suppose living on campus at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, OH could be considered that, but I don't think it is as major of a step), I will probably persist on this board with a plethora of questions. I am the kind that does as much research as possible before making even moderately-ranged purchases (like a new computer monitor that I am trying to pick out in the range of 24" and above) or decisions. Again, it is not even certain if I will actually end up moving here (dependent on job offers), but I thought it best to do research now rather than later.
Thus, ALL opinions are certainly appreciated and the more in depth, nitpicky and informative, the better. Right now I am trying to get a list of areas down to consider moving to as well as apartments or homes. I've received a lot of responses and will be checking some out that I have not checked yet. Unfortunately, the internet actually does not seem to have as much easily accessible information on some apartments and homes in the Tulsa area that I would like to see (a bit surprising to me). Some apartments have much more information than others. Finding pictures of the interior of the University Club Tower has been a bit difficult although I found a couple Flickr albums that have helped me a lot (My view on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31813390@N03/3202350346/ - broken link) is one picture from an album that showed a nice view). Now I am trying to find more photos of the rooms available as well as one with a view of downtown Tulsa (which I think I found at one time but now have forgotten where it was). Also, I am continuing to look for areas on hillsides with a nice view or if that gets out of my price range, just good apartments in suburbia and the outskirts (not afraid of commuting from a rural environment since that is what I do at the moment).
I'll start looking through the areas some of you have recommended and come back with my opinions on areas I am more interested in. This would be so much easier if I could just take a week off and fly over to Tulsa for that time and meet up with my friend as well as some as you (I could do this, but I am reserving my vacation time at the moment for something else that is surprisingly more important--i.e.: not just leisure). Thanks again to all for your input and keep coming with it as I appreciate ALL commentary.
Thanks marsbound for your understanding. I always feel like when considering a move I want all the opinions possible, even if it's not necessarily what I want to hear. Tulsa as a city has a lot to offer a lot of people, and can be a great town for many different people. Let me say this - it seems like Tulsa would benefit greatly from having an individual like you around!
As far as your situation - have you checked into the Jenks area and south Tulsa around ORU and the Riverwalk? This area always seems very happening to me with a lot of young people, so you might have a lot of luck there. There are also (gasp!) trees and some walking paths! Best of luck to you!
Well, my first post actually did mention the positives of south Tulsa, which I find to have very natural and lovely hills and trees - so, not all grave and negative! I think that was just attributed to me unfairly. I just mentioned I found mid-town to be relatively tree-less. Now, I admit instead of the word 'completely' I should have used 'comparatively' - that would have made a lot more sense and I think gotten my point across better. Unfortunately, the area of town with my business and work is not around these nice areas where the pictures have been taken, so that explains my perspective. Also, I live in a new neighborhood (so, no trees, which were torn down for construction) and the grass here tends to stay brown and dead all winter, unlike what I used to know in another state. So, I see very little, if any, green every day, again explaining my perspective. I would take pictures but I have neither the time nor the desire to see my neighborhood out here on the 'net! So, can we agree to disagree and move on?
By the way, please excuse my blanket statement (or rather, implication) about Texas. I have find parts of Texas to be very beautiful with trees and greenery. Much of Austin and the northern part of Houston can rival any area in OK.
Hopefully I have explained myself a bit better without getting defensive from feeling myself being 'under the attack'.
Of course the grass stays brown in Winter, it is Winter after all and the grass in dormant (not dead). Your initial post painted a stereotypical view of Tulsa, that is why I responded as I did.
Well yes but in other states in the winter the grass is still very green, even in dormancy. That's all. But that was just a tiny part of my overall post.
Let's take it back to the main idea please! Any other good advice for Marsbound, other posters out there?
Thanks marsbound for your understanding. I always feel like when considering a move I want all the opinions possible, even if it's not necessarily what I want to hear. Tulsa as a city has a lot to offer a lot of people, and can be a great town for many different people. Let me say this - it seems like Tulsa would benefit greatly from having an individual like you around!
As far as your situation - have you checked into the Jenks area and south Tulsa around ORU and the Riverwalk? This area always seems very happening to me with a lot of young people, so you might have a lot of luck there. There are also (gasp!) trees and some walking paths! Best of luck to you!
Thanks for the compliment . I have indeed considered Jenks but from my limited research in that area, it appears there may only be a couple of apartment complexes and the one that I did see wasn't very attractive. As far as homes for rent go in Jenks, I am not sure but I have been attempting to find good figures (most I have found are homes that are for SALE instead). I haven't checked out Riverwalk or the area around ORU, but will check them out now that you mention it.
But, I do think sarcasm plus a Bible verse really lessens the Bible verse's impact. Just my opinion, which I see is easily berated on this particular board.
Last I checked, the plural of tax didn't include an apostrophe, and 'payed'='paid' for those of you having problems translating from gibberish into English.
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So, can we agree to disagree and move on? 
. I have indeed considered Jenks but from my limited research in that area, it appears there may only be a couple of apartment complexes and the one that I did see wasn't very attractive. As far as homes for rent go in Jenks, I am not sure but I have been attempting to find good figures (most I have found are homes that are for SALE instead). I haven't checked out Riverwalk or the area around ORU, but will check them out now that you mention it.
