Help!! a possible job relocation to the Tulsa area.. need advise!! (Bixby: rental car, rental)

[Jammie]

You can call Tulsa "Southern" all you want. It doesn't make it so.

Tulsa is a friendly city and it's not exactly Midwestern or anything else. It's a sort of middle-of-of the road area. It's unique, but it's definitely not Southern.

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

. I hope nobody from Washington State is reading this but seriously if the Huskies (Washington) played the Sooners they would get spanked.. OMG did I really say that??

They played last year, and yes, they got spanked.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Jammie

You can call Tulsa "Southern" all you want. It doesn't make it so.

Tulsa is a friendly city and it's not exactly Midwestern or anything else. It's a sort of middle-of-of the road area. It's unique, but it's definitely not Southern.

Jamster,

I don't know what kinda burr you got under your saddle up there in S. Dakota, but I was just trying to give the OP a good sense of the culture of Oklahoma just so she wasn't disappointed/confused about the South-Central area of the United States culturally.

I do not call Oklahoma the South, the Census does. Here's a map for you to checkout: File:Census Regions and Divisions.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It has Oklahoma in a subregion of the South known as the West South Central. Is Oklahoma the Deep South? Of course not. It definitely has some stronge Southern traits, however. Here's another link for you to checkout if you have time to read it: Southern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It has Tulsa as the 22nd largest metropolitan area in the South.

Again, I've lived on both the East/West coast, spent time in the Midwest (MO, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, etc....and I've also met people from the true Midwest = Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, and Ohio) so I can say that OK shares much more culturally in common with states like Arkansas, Texas, and northern Louisiana (been to every state in the South except Alabama) than it does true midwestern states. I've never heard someone from a true Midwestern state include Oklahoma in part of the Midwest. The only people I've ever heard refer to OK as the Midwest are from California and now Oregon (maybe people in the West are taught this in school)? In gradeschool I was taught that Oklahoma was a Southern state with very heavy "western" (Cowboy, ranching, Native American influence.)

Just trying to help the OP out. If that burns your biscuits well that's just too bad.

Good day, Sir.

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

Jamster,

I don't know what kinda burr you got under your saddle up there in S. Dakota, but I was just trying to give the OP a good sense of the culture of Oklahoma just so she wasn't disappointed/confused about the South-Central area of the United States culturally.

I do not call Oklahoma the South, the Census does. Here's a map for you to checkout: File:Census Regions and Divisions.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It has Oklahoma in a subregion of the South known as the West South Central. Is Oklahoma the Deep South? Of course not. It definitely has some stronge Southern traits, however. Here's another link for you to checkout if you have time to read it: Southern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It has Tulsa as the 22nd largest metropolitan area in the South.

Again, I've lived on both the East/West coast, spent time in the Midwest (MO, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, etc....and I've also met people from the true Midwest = Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, and Ohio) so I can say that OK shares much more culturally in common with states like Arkansas, Texas, and northern Louisiana (been to every state in the South except Alabama) than it does true midwestern states. I've never heard someone from a true Midwestern state include Oklahoma in part of the Midwest. The only people I've ever heard refer to OK as the Midwest are from California and now Oregon (maybe people in the West are taught this in school)? In gradeschool I was taught that Oklahoma was a Southern state with very heavy "western" (Cowboy, ranching, Native American influence.)

Just trying to help the OP out. If that burns your biscuits well that's just too bad.

Good day, Sir.

Jammie is a Ma'am...

As far as Oklahoma being Southern, whether the census says so or not.... The Tulsa area definitely has more of a Midwestern feel than Southern. I don't care what the US government thinks; they stink to high heaven anyway.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Jammie is a Ma'am...

As far as Oklahoma being Southern, whether the census says so or not.... The Tulsa area definitely has more of a Midwestern feel than Southern. I don't care what the US government thinks; they stink to high heaven anyway.

I appreciate your opinion Synop. Based on my experience as well as the Census' detailed analysis of this issue I respectfully disagree.....although I certainly agree with the government stinking to high heaven! :-)

I live in the DFW area now and Tulsa (and OK City for that matter) feels very much like this area (and not much different than Little Rock or Nashville) than say an obvious Midwestern town such as St. Louis, Kansas City, Omaha, Chicago, Des Moines, Indianapolis, etc.

I think my fellow Texans would be taken aback with being called Midwestern as well. I did, in fact, hear a Californian refer to Texas as the Midwest. Again, maybe this is something that folks on the West coast are taught in gradeschool? Before I lived on the West coast I had never heard of anyone refer to Oklahoma as the Midwest. Two individuals I encountered called Oklahoma the Midwest and one individual called Texas the Midwest. Very interesting and something I had never even considered before. Going off my family background and what I learned in school growing up in OK I had always thought of Oklahoma as part of the South and/or Southwest. Midwest and Oklahoma just sounds strange to my ears, LOL.

However, although I respectfully disagree, I appreciate your opinion. Blessings, Friend.

Oh, and sorry for calling you a "Sir" Jammie....I meant to say "Good day, Ma'am." :-]

[Synopsis]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

I appreciate your opinion Synop. Based on my experience as well as the Census' detailed analysis of this issue I respectfully disagree.....although I certainly agree with the government stinking to high heaven! :-)

I live in the DFW area now and Tulsa (and OK City for that matter) feels very much like this area (and not much different than Little Rock or Nashville) than say an obvious Midwestern town such as St. Louis, Kansas City, Omaha, Chicago, Des Moines, Indianapolis, etc.

I think my fellow Texans would be taken aback with being called Midwestern as well. I did, in fact, hear a Californian refer to Texas as the Midwest. Again, maybe this is something that folks on the West coast are taught in gradeschool? Before I lived on the West coast I had never heard of anyone refer to Oklahoma as the Midwest. Two individuals I encountered called Oklahoma the Midwest and one individual called Texas the Midwest. Very interesting and something I had never even considered before. Going off my family background and what I learned in school growing up in OK I had always thought of Oklahoma as part of the South and/or Southwest. Midwest and Oklahoma just sounds strange to my ears, LOL.

However, although I respectfully disagree, I appreciate your opinion. Blessings, Friend.

Oh, and sorry for calling you a "Sir" Jammie....I meant to say "Good day, Ma'am." :-]

Your opinions are ALWAYS appreciated and respected!

[LadyRobyn]

Originally Posted by Synopsis

Your opinions are ALWAYS appreciated and respected!

As are Jammie's!! You are both trying to define a place that you BOTH obviously enjoy.... Don't get lost in the tiny details OK? (What is the old saying? "The Devil is in the details"... )

This is a tired old argument that will go on forever amongst some people. The Census bases it's definitions on location and NOT the culture or the people... WE are not Southern, Western, Mid-Western, or any other "location" label you try to apply to us.

We ARE Oklahomans... Plain and Simple. Listen, Learn and Enjoy: Oklahoma Rising (give it a minute to load)
If you travel to every corner of this State you will meet different "types" of people, but they are still Oklahomans.

Can we all kiss and make up now? Or....

[Raelyn28]

Well.. then here is what I have to say because after all I started this thread. I really DO NOT want Tulsa to be like Omaha because I thought Omaha had rude people and it was REALLY boring. No offense to any of you husker fans!! We won't go there now will we??? I happen to love southern hospitality and love the accent. My sister- in- law was from Alabama and I used to try and talk like she talked. I have spoken with several people over the past month by phone from Tulsa... and you know what?? They have the same southern accent that my sister-in-law has. Maybe not as pronounced but there is an accent and I love it!!!

I truly believe that Tulsa is just as unique as any city in the US and I truly believe that I will fit in fine.. It is looking better every day. I can tell that those of you who have been helping me are very nice and for the most part you guys get along. Which is more than I can say for the Orange County California threads. Geez those people are really uptight!! And I used to live there!!! LOL, I love to move different places and experience different cultures, people, etc...

So don't start arguing about all the Midwestern/Southern stuff cause it doesn't make any difference to me.. In fact I would rather have it be more of a Southern feel than Midwestern as I previously stated. And one more question??? Is there rock n roll in Tulsa???? Or will I have to get rid of my classical rock and buy a pair of cowboy boots? Just curious

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

I appreciate your opinion Synop. Based on my experience as well as the Census' detailed analysis of this issue I respectfully disagree.....although I certainly agree with the government stinking to high heaven! :-)

I live in the DFW area now and Tulsa (and OK City for that matter) feels very much like this area (and not much different than Little Rock or Nashville) than say an obvious Midwestern town such as St. Louis, Kansas City, Omaha, Chicago, Des Moines, Indianapolis, etc.

I think my fellow Texans would be taken aback with being called Midwestern as well. I did, in fact, hear a Californian refer to Texas as the Midwest. Again, maybe this is something that folks on the West coast are taught in gradeschool? Before I lived on the West coast I had never heard of anyone refer to Oklahoma as the Midwest. Two individuals I encountered called Oklahoma the Midwest and one individual called Texas the Midwest. Very interesting and something I had never even considered before. Going off my family background and what I learned in school growing up in OK I had always thought of Oklahoma as part of the South and/or Southwest. Midwest and Oklahoma just sounds strange to my ears, LOL.

However, although I respectfully disagree, I appreciate your opinion. Blessings, Friend.

Oh, and sorry for calling you a "Sir" Jammie....I meant to say "Good day, Ma'am." :-]

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Well.. then here is what I have to say because after all I started this thread. I really DO NOT want Tulsa to be like Omaha because I thought Omaha had rude people and it was REALLY boring. No offense to any of you husker fans!! We won't go there now will we??? I happen to love southern hospitality and love the accent. My sister- in- law was from Alabama and I used to try and talk like she talked. I have spoken with several people over the past month by phone from Tulsa... and you know what?? They have the same southern accent that my sister-in-law has. Maybe not as pronounced but there is an accent and I love it!!!

I truly believe that Tulsa is just as unique as any city in the US and I truly believe that I will fit in fine.. It is looking better every day. I can tell that those of you who have been helping me are very nice and for the most part you guys get along. Which is more than I can say for the Orange County California threads. Geez those people are really uptight!! And I used to live there!!! LOL, I love to move different places and experience different cultures, people, etc...

So don't start arguing about all the Midwestern/Southern stuff cause it doesn't make any difference to me.. In fact I would rather have it be more of a Southern feel than Midwestern as I previously stated. And one more question??? Is there rock n roll in Tulsa???? Or will I have to get rid of my classical rock and buy a pair of cowboy boots? Just curious

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I happen to love southern hospitality and love the accent. My sister- in- law was from Alabama and I used to try and talk like she talked. I have spoken with several people over the past month by phone from Tulsa... and you know what?? They have the same southern accent that my sister-in-law has. Maybe not as pronounced but there is an accent and I love it!!!
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Thanks Raelyn. Your experience confirms what I have experienced growing up as an Okie and living in several different regions of the United States. That's a funny story about your sister-in-law. Oddly enough, after hearing my accent, I had someone ask me if I was from Alabama when I lived on the West coast.....I just laughed and told her "No way, I'm just a proud Okie....there is no way my accent is as thick as an Alabaman, but my grammar might be worse!" LOL!!!

And if you love Southern hospitality I think you will fit right in with the good 'ol folks from Oklahoma. The culture (speech, food, religion, music, sports/activities) is very similar to what you would get in undeniable Southern states....just a watered-down version of it. If you get away from Oklahoma's major cities (Tulsa and OK City) and get more into small towns/rural areas you will definitely see a strong leaning towards Southern culture. I think I remember you saying that ya'll were looking at Bixby as a possible area to move to....you will definitely get a strong accent from people from Bixby (at least those that are from there...born&raised). And I think you'll find Okies to be some of the nicest/most helpful folks around. I've lived in several states and there just isn't anything like the Okie Way. Admittedly, I might be just a little biased, LOL. ;-)

As for your inquiry about music, well we have something here in Oklahoma (and to a lesser extent Texas) that we call Red Dirt music. It's our own form of Rockabilly....kinda western/rock all rolled into one...it's grittier/tougher/more Redneck than alot of the pop-country you get coming out of Nashville today. Really good stuff, and if you like Rock-n-Roll, I think you'll like Red Dirt. Some of our more popular artists are Cross Canadian Ragweed, Stoney LaRue, Jason Boland, the Red Dirt Rangers, etc. Checkout this link if you want to read a little more on Red Dirt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dirt_(music).

Blessings and keep us updated on the move!

[educator1953]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Well.. then here is what I have to say because after all I started this thread. I really DO NOT want Tulsa to be like Omaha because I thought Omaha had rude people and it was REALLY boring. No offense to any of you husker fans!! We won't go there now will we??? I happen to love southern hospitality and love the accent. My sister- in- law was from Alabama and I used to try and talk like she talked. I have spoken with several people over the past month by phone from Tulsa... and you know what?? They have the same southern accent that my sister-in-law has. Maybe not as pronounced but there is an accent and I love it!!!

I truly believe that Tulsa is just as unique as any city in the US and I truly believe that I will fit in fine.. It is looking better every day. I can tell that those of you who have been helping me are very nice and for the most part you guys get along. Which is more than I can say for the Orange County California threads. Geez those people are really uptight!! And I used to live there!!! LOL, I love to move different places and experience different cultures, people, etc...

So don't start arguing about all the Midwestern/Southern stuff cause it doesn't make any difference to me.. In fact I would rather have it be more of a Southern feel than Midwestern as I previously stated. And one more question??? Is there rock n roll in Tulsa???? Or will I have to get rid of my classical rock and buy a pair of cowboy boots? Just curious

You'll be able to keep your classic rock. I live in southwest Oklahoma (Duncan), and it's about all I listen to lately. There are clasic rock stations all over the radio, and I know Tulsa has some because I visit my brother and nephew there frequently. You'll be fine in Oklahoma!!