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07-22-2009, 03:21 PM
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Should Oklahoma Split Into (2) Two Separate States
Just for the fun of disscussion should the state of Oklahoma be splited into two separate states....Oklahoma and East Oklahoma with
(Tulsa East Oklahoma) as the new state Capital of East Oklahoma. The
border of the (2) states could be the 1/2 way point on the Turner
Turnpike half way between Oklahoma City and Tulsa.This action would
give Tulsa a instant national (Brand) Status..Idenity..Reputation....
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07-22-2009, 05:03 PM
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In 1905, the five civilized tribes petitioned to become their own state. The state of Sequoyah. It was denied in 1906, and the state of Sequoyah was absorbed by Oklahoma.
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07-22-2009, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodpasture
In 1905, the five civilized tribes petitioned to become their own state. The state of Sequoyah. It was denied in 1906, and the state of Sequoyah was absorbed by Oklahoma.
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This would have been it:
Sorry for the size of the image; I linked it from wikimedia commons.
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07-25-2009, 03:55 PM
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That's What I'm Talking About With TULSA As The Capital
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Originally Posted by BigOkie
This would have been it:
Sorry for the size of the image; I linked it from wikimedia commons.
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Yeah that's pretty much what i'm talking about with TULSA as the
state capital of East Oklahoma......TULSA Brand would increase by
leaps and bounds with it being the largest city and state capital..
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07-25-2009, 04:38 PM
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I don't think Tulsa would have been it. Most likely Muskogee.
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In a convention at Eufaula in 1902, representatives of the Five Civilized Tribes started a drive towards statehood for the Indian Territory. The name for their proposed state was Sequoyah, a prominent Cherokee – in fact, the man who devised the Cherokee alphabet. In 1903, the delegates met again to organise a constitutional convention. This convention met at Muskogee in 1905, presided over by General Pleasant Porter, Principal Chief of the Creek Nation. Vice-presidents were the high representatives of each of the five ‘civilized tribes’: William C. Rogers (Cherokee), William H. Murray (Chickasaw), Green McCurtain (Choctaw), John Brown (Seminole) and Charles N. Haskell (Creek). If Sequoyah never achieved statehood, it wasn’t for the efforts of the Convention: it drafted a constitution, established county boundaries for the new state, elected delegates to petition the US Congress for statehood and saw its proposals overwhelmingly endorsed in a referendum held in Indian Territory.
However, Eastern politicians pressured then US President Theodore Roosevelt against admitting two Western states (Sequoyah and Oklahoma) into the Union, fearing this would disproportionally diminish Eastern states’ political influence. Roosevelt then decided both territories could only enter the Union as a single state. Having already laid the groundwork for their own state, Indian Territory representatives had a big influence in establishing Oklahoma. The constitution of Oklahoma, admitted as the 46th state in 1907, is based largely on that of Sequoyah.
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147 – The Stillborn State of Sequoyah « Strange Maps
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07-26-2009, 11:25 AM
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Howest. Why don't you just move to Texas and have them become their own country.
There can be more than one city in Oklahoma. I wish that Lawton, Stillwater, McAlester, Woodward, Ardmoore, and Enid would grow to become 100,000 or more.
The problem with people like you is you try to divide instead of bringing the cities and smaller cities together to use all of our strengths to bring people and jobs to Oklahoma. We have so many assets that we need to focus on combining instead of thinking of dividing.
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07-26-2009, 01:41 PM
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United she stands, divided she falls.  Let's just leave things well enough alone! Oklahoma is too little to divide! 
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07-26-2009, 05:31 PM
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There's (5) Cities In Oklahoma........
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Originally Posted by lasomeday
Howest. Why don't you just move to Texas and have them become their own country.
There can be more than one city in Oklahoma. I wish that Lawton, Stillwater, McAlester, Woodward, Ardmoore, and Enid would grow to become 100,000 or more.
The problem with people like you is you try to divide instead of bringing the cities and smaller cities together to use all of our strengths to bring people and jobs to Oklahoma. We have so many assets that we need to focus on combining instead of thinking of dividing.
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There's (5) Cities in Oklahoma....Oklahoma City...Tulsa....Norman
Broken Arrow.....Lawton OK....And please tell me if Oklahoma City
is going to ever value Tulsa...or would Tulsa be better out as the
Head and Capital of East Oklahoma....
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07-26-2009, 05:34 PM
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I Was Just Asking For Opinions........
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Originally Posted by Okiegirlfriend
United she stands, divided she falls.  Let's just leave things well enough alone! Oklahoma is too little to divide! 
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I was just asking for opinions on a very interesting subject.....
No harm ....No foul ...No injury......
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08-09-2009, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lasomeday
The problem with people like you is you try to divide instead of bringing the cities and smaller cities together to use all of our strengths to bring people and jobs to Oklahoma. We have so many assets that we need to focus on combining instead of thinking of dividing.
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I think the problem with people like YOU is that you get all worked up over nothing and cause problems. If you would have read the original post, you would have realized that this thread was just for fun, not to get angry and defensive about. Your post was rude.
However, I do agree that we would be better off as a single state rather than one divided. Simply because there is so much history that involves the entire state and I think seperation would cause some of it to be lost. There is also so much diversity and variety if only from the scenery if you drive from Tulsa to the panhandle. I was born and raised in Oklahoma and am proud to be a part of it all.
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