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Old 06-20-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I haven't been to that area in years, it just wasn't my cup of tea if you know what I mean. The last time I was there, it seemed like an island of filth in a somewhat nice part of town. Trash on the streets, ugly buildings, no charm at all. I didn't know if anything or much has changed in the last 20 years. With OKC changing so much since then I would hope it's also turned around.
It hasn't changed. It's still, by appearances, a run down, ugly area in an otherwise nice part of town. Given the history of the gay community in OKC, that's how they wanted it when the area was initially developing. They wanted the gay-oriented nightlife in an area where people wouldn't be aware of it if they didn't know what they were looking for. I believe Angles still has an alarm system that was used in the 1980s to warn people that the police were coming so they could evacuate the club in time. There was a time, not long ago, when those bars were routinely raided by police merely for being gay bars.

Even with the conservative climate of OKC, LGBT acceptance has come a long ways since then. However, it's going to be difficult to convince the city to invest in revitalizing that area. It would be nice to see a new streetscape and I think that would go a long way towards spurring more development over there.
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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It hasn't changed. It's still, by appearances, a run down, ugly area in an otherwise nice part of town. Given the history of the gay community in OKC, that's how they wanted it when the area was initially developing. They wanted the gay-oriented nightlife in an area where people wouldn't be aware of it if they didn't know what they were looking for. I believe Angles still has an alarm system that was used in the 1980s to warn people that the police were coming so they could evacuate the club in time. There was a time, not long ago, when those bars were routinely raided by police merely for being gay bars.

Even with the conservative climate of OKC, LGBT acceptance has come a long ways since then. However, it's going to be difficult to convince the city to invest in revitalizing that area. It would be nice to see a new streetscape and I think that would go a long way towards spurring more development over there.
Have you ever been to Boys Town in Chicago? It's amazing what the city and the LGBT community had done in st area. Even if you're not gay, it's an incredible place to go.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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There's that interstate highway on the east side. If they see 3 men in a car with no women or children, they just assume they are drug dealers and pretty much dismantle their car. Happened to 3 guys who went there to metal detect for old coins. They hated illegal drugs, maybe never even seen one let alone studied them.

As they were finally allowed to leave, one of them joked that they call it the sooner state because the sooner you get out of there, the better.

An elderly couple said someone dear to them was doing 100 years on prison for possession of 2 oz of plant material. Order from God against his best plant?



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Old 06-20-2017, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I haven't been to that area in years, it just wasn't my cup of tea if you know what I mean. The last time I was there, it seemed like an island of filth in a somewhat nice part of town. Trash on the streets, ugly buildings, no charm at all. I didn't know if anything or much has changed in the last 20 years. With OKC changing so much since then I would hope it's also turned around.
The construction of a new bar, the Boom, around 5 years ago has kept that area from going further downhill since Angles closed, except for special events. The Boom is packed on Saturday nights for the drag show. The host and co-owner Kitty Bobby Aimes is good at making audience laugh with her stand up comedy as in "Marriage is like a bean bag chair. It's easy to get into but hard to get out of." She can also be good with insulting individual members of the audience with her foul, putdown humor. I like the comedy part of the show better than when the drag queens are performing. But they are usually quite a sight in their elaborate outfits.

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Old 06-20-2017, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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An elderly couple said someone dear to them was doing 100 years on prison for possession of 2 oz of plant material. Order from God against his best plant?
Oklahoma child molesters get off a lot easier. Instead of doing anything about it, Oklahoma legislators think it's far more important to try to ban abortion. So much for being pro-life for the little children.

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Old 06-21-2017, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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There's that interstate highway on the east side. If they see 3 men in a car with no women or children, they just assume they are drug dealers and pretty much dismantle their car. Happened to 3 guys who went there to metal detect for old coins. They hated illegal drugs, maybe never even seen one let alone studied them.

As they were finally allowed to leave, one of them joked that they call it the sooner state because the sooner you get out of there, the better.

An elderly couple said someone dear to them was doing 100 years on prison for possession of 2 oz of plant material. Order from God against his best plant?
The three guys lucked out better than me. One time over 10 years ago I didn't perform the sobriety test good enough for the cops and they put me under arrest. They didn't have a breathalyzer to test me for alcohol, so the first stop before jail was Guthrie Hospital, so a nurse could draw blood from me to get tested. The Logan County jail was a literal rat hole, because I saw a rat come out of a hole in the wall. So I sure didn't sleep that night. Overhearing a couple of inmates bring up oral sex acts didn't help, either. Over a month later the blood test came back free of alcohol, so I was cleared of all charges. Oklahoma is so paranoid over drugs that sometimes innocent people have to suffer over it.
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Even with the conservative climate of OKC, LGBT acceptance has come a long ways since then. However, it's going to be difficult to convince the city to invest in revitalizing that area. It would be nice to see a new streetscape and I think that would go a long way towards spurring more development over there.
The city did something several years ago. It eliminated two lanes from a small portion of 39th, in order to mark off two bike lanes. Also street corners were made accessible for wheel chairs. It hasn't helped things enough. The ugly abandoned car wash at Barnes & 39th has got to go, if just for a new parking lot.
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Old 07-26-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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They closed Po Folks restaurant didn't they? That's bad.
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Old 08-07-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: plano
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Visited Tulsa this past weekend, just drove through and spent time exploring 74137 zip and jenks. I drive in from NWA on 412 then headed to south Tulsa, the zip mentioned before driving to Utica Square and through DT to Jenks. Much of Tulsa looks old and tired to me. The zip noted and Jenks much less so but coming from NWA where most everything is new, it looked shabby and the roads were rough in need of repair all over when I drove up from Durant to I40 to NWA then back home down US69 to Durant and home to Texas.

But the climate was nice this weekend and it is closer to family than NWA so moving to Tulsa is on my list despite this issues. I can see how once nice areas are run down now and though I do not have kids to benefit from my home want that area to remain nice for over 20 years or so and feel the two areas mentioned will do so. Gated communities are faux security in my view but so numerous in the area I prefer (bounded by 111 and 121 and Sheridan and Yale) I am more then open to them, this area and nearby shopping seemed solid for set to stay so, but who really knows?
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