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11-05-2009, 05:41 PM
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You Are Correct
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Originally Posted by teakboat
Hard/smart work has kept quite a few from being poor.
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Of course you are correct with that statement , but there are other
factors that come into play....meeting the right people..being in the
right place "at the right time..it's more than Hard Work/Smart Work.. |
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11-05-2009, 05:47 PM
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Not going to search for the stats at this moment, but my guess is otherwise. Again, we have a lot of wealthy people who make the "average per capita" look higher. How else would you explain the higher rates of poverty, child hunger, homelessness, etc. Had one friend who visited Tulsa from Tucson comment that he had never seen a city with such large and radically different incomes. Our poor areas are really poor, the wealthy areas quite impressive. And the numbers on each extreme are larger than usual it seems. The number of million dollar homes for example is larger than comparable cities, and even larger cities in the midwest and south. Then you go to the other extreme and find lots of homes that are dirt, dirt, cheap. Yes all cities have extremes, but ours seem to be larger and the examples more numerous than other similar cities.
The "average" incomes are not bad,,, but I wonder how we rank when you break it down? My bet is that you would find above average numbers of people in serious poverty in this city, and quite possibly an above average number of fairly wealthy people.
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Tulsa's median income is higher than Tucson's. Median is a better indicator than average. I never liked averages when comparing incomes home prices and such, it is not a good indicator.
Tulsa is within .6% of Tucson's poverty level.
I guess it's just perception.
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11-05-2009, 05:47 PM
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Now I Don't Agree With You...Oklahoma Is One Of The Poorest States In America
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Tulsa is not a poor city, per capita wealth is higher than Dallas Tx. It is true that OK is a fairly poor state. However, everything is relative. Oklahoma per capita income is higher than that of most European countries, which I suppose are models for the type of systems that you favor.
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You must be talking about Eastern European Countries...pleazee tell
me that ..that's what you talking about. The Standard Of Living In
OKLAHOMA In No Way Equals To Western Europe. Oklahoma Ranking
Against Other American States Are Listed Below...
The wealthiest (and poorest) places in the United States - Aug. 28, 2007
Oklahoma is the 4Th Poorest State In America..Right Behind The Poorest
50.Mississippi
49.West Virginia
48.Arkansas
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11-08-2009, 04:21 PM
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Oh I'm Not Disappointed....I'm Happy...........
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I'm not disappointed everything that I posted was right on spot....
or do you disagree...if so prove it...And I Misspoke I Said That
Oklahoma Was America 47 Poorest State (When I Should've Said
47Th Richest State....It's America (4Th) Poorest State..Right Behind
Arkansas (3Rd) Poorest West Virginia (2Nd) Poorest and Mississippi (1St)
Poorest State In America.....
You my friend are comparing Pineapples (To) Apples by comparing
EASTERN EUROPEAN Countries to Oklahoma (and know it) and didn't
I SAY AS MUST..That you couldn't be talking about WESTERN EUROPE
COUNTRIES...you must be talking about eastern european countries.
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11-08-2009, 05:47 PM
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What are you talking about? OK is higher per capita gpd than Germany or UK.
And, calm down, you seem to take things way too seriously.
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11-08-2009, 08:49 PM
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Well, this forum is truncating my url post, so just type the last " ) " into your browser to bring up that failed page.
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11-08-2009, 11:36 PM
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Yeah It's A Miracle......................
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Yeah it's a miracle that Oklahoma is so rich , but yet it's ranked as
the 4Th Poorest State in America...Go Figure Will Ya...Arkansas and
West Virginia and Mississippi must be doing great compared to Europe
To...and America Is A Western European Country...Who Do You Think
The Founding Father Pattern America After..America is not the first
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11-09-2009, 02:00 PM
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Howest2008, do you see my point though... we seem be be awfully hard on ourselves, when one of the poorest states in the US is wealthier than most of the wealthiest in Europe.
A difference, as mentioned above, is the wealth distribution. Here we have more very rich, more very poor. Socialist Europe has a much tighter bell curve than we do.
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