Crime Rate Falls In America Most Urban Cities But Remains High In TULSA.... (Oklahoma City: school, college)
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Rice, excellent point. I would also share food with someone who had none.
So are you thinking that most of the crime is drug-related? I'm guessing there are treatment centers in Tulsa and trained people to conduct interventions. Is that correct? From what area of the country do most of your drugs enter the city?
Poverty is not the main reason for crime. Lack of moral standards is the main reason and is not easily fixed.
The thieves are not breaking into people houses and emptying out the refrigerators but are stealing flat panel TV's,jewelry,guns, and other quick grab valuables.They are stealing to finance the next drug fix.
If someone broke into my house and emptied the refrigerator only I would not even report it to police.I understand that people need to eat but they do not "need" drugs but think they do.
Of course that's true for Tulsa OK , but not true for certain area's of California , I remember my apartment being broken into in Long Beach CA and the crooks fixing themselves something "to eat' and raiding the refrigerator....... Home break in are done by criminal origanizations who seek to make massive profits through their's criminal enterprises (or) if that's not the case it's just people with drug habits trying to get the next 'fix'...........
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NYC and LA , SF, Miami have minority neighborhoods galore , but crime is going down so it's has to be something else beside minority ghetto's and so called hoods.
NYC and LA , SF, Miami have minority neighborhoods galore , but crime is going down so it's has to be something else beside minority ghetto's and so called hoods.
O.K. let's get down to brass tacks.....here are some of the ways to deal with Tulsa's Crime Problems.....
Until we can state the factors creating a large portion of our 'crime' problem is, we'll never fix it.
A large portion of Tulsa's crime is happening in ethnic areas of extreme poverty.
Extreme poverty is not the primary cause of crime. I grew up with some people who were dirt poor by U.S standards but were law abiding-honest folks.
The breakdown of the family unit also contributes to crime everywhere and not just ethnic neighborhoods.It is true that the majority of broken families are in the poverty range by U.S.Standards.Poverty is a symptom and not the primary cause of increased crime rates.If you want to see real poverty then travel to Mexico. The "poor" here in Tulsa are wealthy by Mexico Standards.
It is heartbreaking to see a small child rummaging in a dumpster for food behind a restaurant at 8AM in PVR.Their home is a thatch hut/cardboard/wood plank scraps built in the side of the mountain.
I had a Tulsa Police Officer once tell me that approx. 80% of Tulsa's crime is drug related even if indirectly.
Extreme poverty is not the primary cause of crime. I grew up with some people who were dirt poor by U.S standards but were law abiding-honest folks.
Extreme poverty is not the "primary" causation of crime "it's" the expectations of "The Urban Youths" and those locked into the "Street" "Culture" who believe that they... "must obtain wealth by any means" Necessary.
The breakdown of the family unit also contributes to crime everywhere and not just ethnic neighborhoods.It is true that the majority of broken families are in the poverty range by U.S.Standards.Poverty is a symptom and not the primary cause of increased crime rates.If you want to see real poverty then travel to Mexico. The "poor" here in Tulsa are wealthy by Mexico Standards.
It is heartbreaking to see a small child rummaging in a dumpster for food behind a restaurant at 8AM in PVR.Their home is a thatch hut/cardboard/wood plank scraps built in the side of the mountain.
The so called "white trash" "Caucasian" of Kentucky and Tennessee have very similar levels of crime in their communities (and) "crime" is out of control "down in OLD MEXICO" with the "Drug Cartels" Be- cause "poverty" is one of the "building blocks" that drug dealers need to set up business in any "community"..!
I had a Tulsa Police Officer once tell me that approx. 80% of Tulsa's crime is drug related even if indirectly.
Drugs have a way of creeping into almost everything in lower income area , it takes a very strong and determined person to avoid the pit falls of "Drugs In A "Community Destroyed By Poverty"...!
Tulsa's problems are blaring to new residents. Come down from the ivory tower and be honest about the condition of basic city services. Hell, I was almost run off the road by a police vehicle because he wanted to use the middle turn lane (I was half way into the lane) to pass traffic in front of him. That is just one example of many that shows the typical attitude of those in authority to those that are not.
From school administrators, police, city hall, unions, even some pastors, there is a definite bully mentality to maintain/preserve the ineffective policies that give them their power and accomplish nothing of worth to the community.
But there is evidence that this is a state wide problem: another example of the overwhelming apathy - [url=http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13515889]OSBI Homicide Clearance Rate Doesn't Add Up - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |[/url].
Tulsa's problems are blaring to new residents. Come down from the ivory tower and be honest about the condition of basic city services. Hell, I was almost run off the road by a police vehicle because he wanted to use the middle turn lane (I was half way into the lane) to pass traffic in front of him. That is just one example of many that shows the typical attitude of those in authority to those that are not.
From school administrators, police, city hall, unions, even some pastors, there is a definite bully mentality to maintain/preserve the ineffective policies that give them their power and accomplish nothing of worth to the community.
There is a lot of truth in this post. I've travelled around a bit. I live in the NYC metro area. Growing up, my family spent many years on welfare. There was a difference though in the kind of poverty I experienced as a child growing up in NYC and a child in poverty in Tulsa.
New York was so vibrant and filled with opportunity. I knew I was poor but I didn't feel so much apart from others around me. A poor person in Tulsa feels, I think, more hopeless. For example- Harlem is a poor neighborhood in NYC. Within it though is the center of African-American culture and a good part of the Black experience in the United States. Cultural institutions abound in Harlem. People flock there for the richness of the neighborhood even though its largely poor economically. Is there a like neighborhood in Tulsa?
The disparity between rich and poor in Tulsa is evident- and believe me, I like Tulsa. I'm moving late next year and as fast as I can. Tulsa is just beginning to get a real vibe. What also is evident about Tulsa is the sense of confidence about the future and the prople who are trying to make this city better. The best think about Tulsa is its people. I think a person in Tulsa who is making it is a lot more willing to give to others than where I live. Maybe its because Oklahoma is a poorer state and people remember where they came from.
Broke is a temporary condition, poor is a state of mind. - Sir Richard Francis Burton
Tulsa was once one of the richest cities in the Midwest and ranked with Wichita and Houston up until the late 1960s when the oil business decided Houston was the place to be (messed up thinking if you ask me). Tulsa once had a booming telecommunications industry in the 1990s and that went south in the .com bubble. Having moved here from out of state, I think Tulsa might be broke but it isn't poor.
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Is that correct? From what area of the country do most of your drugs enter the city?
