Survivor: Redemption Island Feb 16, 2011 (Lost, on tv, cast, cost)

[Minervah]

[SIZE=3]Again, he played with a bunch of people who never saw an episode of Survivor prior being on the show. They had their feelings hurt. Period.[/SIZE]

Just curious. Where did you get the information these people never saw the show before? I thought I heard several of them say they had watched both him and Boston Rob in previous games.

[gobrien]

Originally Posted by Minervah

Wow! Considering how he pushed David Cassidy a couple of times during their "The Apprentice" task, it would appear he can't keep his hands or his temper to himslef. Cassidy was brave confronting him about it.

That was Richard Hatch.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by gobrien

That was Richard Hatch.

Whoops! you're right. I had a senior moment there.

I guess somehow I got them mixed up because to me they are cut from the same cloth.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by gobrien

I've been on this forum since Samoa at least and Russell really never had many fans here, I'm one of the few. I don't see the glee with him getting voted out etc as anything unusual or calling him Russhole, it's always been that way here. I don't take it personally.

Well, you shouldn't take it personally, but I am curious as to what there is to like about the man?

[gobrien]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Well, you shouldn't take it personally, but I am curious as to what there is to like about the man?

I don't know about liking him as a man....he was very entertaining on the show, never has an arrogant man gone so far. Usually the big ego'd control freaks get voted out sooner.

[j_k_k]

There is a tendency to conflate several questions.

1) Does one think Russhole is the best player ever? For me that's a total no.

2) Does one think he was the best player in any season? Also a total no. He never won, ergo, he was not.

3) Does one enjoy watching the show with him on it? Yeah, I enjoy hoping he'll suffer. There's no doubt he creates interesting situations.

4) Does one think he is admirable and/or likeable? I definitely don't. He comes across as the sort of person I hate in real life.

[PippySkiddles]

Originally Posted by j_k_k

There is a tendency to conflate several questions.

1) Does one think Russhole is the best player ever? For me that's a total no.

2) Does one think he was the best player in any season? Also a total no. He never won, ergo, he was not.

3) Does one enjoy watching the show with him on it? Yeah, I enjoy hoping he'll suffer. There's no doubt he creates interesting situations.

4) Does one think he is admirable and/or likeable? I definitely don't. He comes across as the sort of person I hate in real life.

can't rep you again,yet-but totally agree with you on all 4 points.
I am SO tired of the Russell talk. He's gone, thank goodness.
I never saw him do anything outstanding-never. Period. He is a legend in his own mind.

[nitram]

Originally Posted by j_k_k

There is a tendency to conflate several questions.

1) Does one think Russhole is the best player ever? For me that's a total no.

2) Does one think he was the best player in any season? Also a total no. He never won, ergo, he was not.

3) Does one enjoy watching the show with him on it? Yeah, I enjoy hoping he'll suffer. There's no doubt he creates interesting situations.

4) Does one think he is admirable and/or likeable? I definitely don't. He comes across as the sort of person I hate in real life.

Have to agree, and if you watched the Jeff Probst interview, he, Jeff, said essentially the same thing about Russell. He mentioned that he wouldn't want Russell as a friend in the outside world, but he did play a helluva game.

[j_k_k]

Originally Posted by PippySkiddles

can't rep you again,yet-but totally agree with you on all 4 points.
I am SO tired of the Russell talk. He's gone, thank goodness.
I never saw him do anything outstanding-never. Period. He is a legend in his own mind.

The 5) I probably should have included: was Russhole a capable and dangerous player, one to be reckoned with? I don't think anyone doubts it. But that's not the same as anointing him the greatest ever. He ain't. He never won. One can enjoy watching him be a jerk while hoping he gets a loathsome tropical pestilence.

[gobrien]

Was Sandra a great player? I'm surprised she won twice.