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Old 06-22-2012, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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One thing really bothers me about this program. Yes, the results of the decoration are invariably outstanding. And once in awhile the owners have to give up something like a re-done second bath to make up for an unforeseen issue like pipes that need to be rerouted. But what about ALL the practical issues in houses of this age that they never mention? I have yet to see an installment of this program where they had to spend the budget replacing a roof, adding a new furnace or hot water heater, or repairing windows or installing double-paned ones.

These houses are OLD and they're in Canada! I refuse to believe that all they just happen to be super ugly but have all those primary needs taken care of. It seems like the rooms in these houses are just perfect shells waiting for the Contractor Brother to turn a layout into the prized "open concept" or install a killer state-of-the-art kitchen. And they never mention that outside the house is still as messy as it was when they first looked at it. Don't the owners' friends, which they're trying so desperately to impress, care about landscaping?
That is a good point. Old houses usually have a host of issues.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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and here' another thing.

they will re-do house number 1, then house number 2, then house number 3, but in all different types of decor.

Now lets say you like house 2, but love house 3 decor, why don't the brothers make house 2 have house 3 decor? The buyers never seem to care, it is almost like they just accent each house has it's own decor, not knowing that it can be changed to a different decor.


I always wondered about that, because some of the houses are nice but I might like a different decor better.

so just because they like house number 2, doesn't mean they can have the decor of house number 3, right????
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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and here' another thing.

they will re-do house number 1, then house number 2, then house number 3, but in all different types of decor.

Now lets say you like house 2, but love house 3 decor, why don't the brothers make house 2 have house 3 decor? The buyers never seem to care, it is almost like they just accent each house has it's own decor, not knowing that it can be changed to a different decor.


I always wondered about that, because some of the houses are nice but I might like a different decor better.

so just because they like house number 2, doesn't mean they can have the decor of house number 3, right????
I've bought/sold more than a few houses in my life, my best friend is a Realtor, and I watch tons of HGTV/DIY. My major observation about real estate is: MANY people (especially younger ones) choose the house they will buy for incredibly superficial reasons.

The most eye-opening experience of my real estate life was selling a rehabbed 19th century row house in an urban neighborhood popular with young people. More than 100 perspective buyers visited my very well-priced property. It became quite clear after the initial weeks of listing that the first-time buyers (and they almost all were) had unbelievable ideas about what their money was going to buy and how much a more than 100-year-old property could be improved to reflect what they would find in suburban McMansions.

The house was rejected because the colors were too boring and because they were too loud (?). Add the people who would not buy a house that lacked the must-have stainless steel/granite kitchen, which would have brought that house WAY over market rate. Or expected I had money for other amenities after adding a new roof, new furnace, replacement windows, walk-in closet; siding the exterior; and landscaping a beautiful private patio. When I inquired how many of these people were checking out the unfinished basement, my Realtor exclaimed, "They don't care about that. These people totally rely on their inspectors for ANY substantive issue."

The majority of first-time buyers have an idea in their heads about what constitutes an attractive house that (1) appeals to their imagination, (2) will impress their friends, and (3) is turn-key ready to host a party the first weekend they're there. The Property Brothers make the very valid point that those dreams add up to half-to-a-million dollars in many urban areas. But it doesn't surprise me in the least that they react to furniture and colors they like and yell, "THAT ONE!" Unless an honest inspector paints them a horror story about a house, they're in, based on their taste in room size, paint, flooring, and if it has a tub AND a shower. The upshot of my experience: After six months on the market I got my price from an investor who was going to rent it. Every single house on my street that was sold that busy real estate year was sold to an investor. As a result, the neighborhood has deteriorated tremendously in the ensuing decade, so I'm lucky I got out when I did.

Also, don't forget that real estate programs are as staged as any other TV reality show. On HGTV's House Hunters, for example, the buyers have already purchased one of those three homes before they shoot the episode. The other two may not have even been on the market when they looked.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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I think Property Brothers is a great show. So many people don't want to buy an older home just because it doesn't have modern decor and does smell like cat pee. Yet how many of those buyers have bought that high priced decorative mansion and.... I think everybody knows how that one ends.

Seems the real moral to the shows is 'get a contractor and put that 10-20% down payment to work on the home you own.' It'll probably be cheaper to heat/cool and pay taxes than space you don't really need.

As far as the appearance of the brothers... they do keep making new episodes.

And just for consideration, I've been watching 'Income Property' for years. I find that far more guiding and informative than any of the other shows, excepting 'Holmes on Homes' which doesn't have so many new episodes.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Taxachusetts
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When I purchased my first house I looked beyond the former owners crap like tne swirly avocado carpet, pink dining room, dated drapes, old windows and so on. Can't the couples EVER have a vision of what could be? They always want perfect, new move in ready!
I know, right? I am selling my house and having a hard time of it. IMO it's a nice little house. Small but nice. Ocean view, corner lot! BUT it's 60 years old and needs some work. My husband died before he could get around to it all. Whatever, I keep complaining that buyers can't see the "potential" of this nice little place. DUH.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:47 AM
 
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What amazes me about this program is how expensive homes are in Toronto and how ordinary the homebuyers appear to be. The majority of the homebuyers just don't come off as being high income wage earners.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: PA (work in NJ)
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I know! I tend to think of Canada and the US as very similar. But on Property Brothers, Property Virgins, and other Canadian HGTV shows, these young couples in their 20s are buying houses that are 500,000-600,000 and they have jobs like "IT manager" and "administrative assistant." And the houses are usually pretty disappointing for that huge price! I guess Canada's inflation is even worse than ours.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I know, right? I am selling my house and having a hard time of it. IMO it's a nice little house. Small but nice. Ocean view, corner lot! BUT it's 60 years old and needs some work. My husband died before he could get around to it all. Whatever, I keep complaining that buyers can't see the "potential" of this nice little place. DUH.

I'm sure it is a nice little house.

The people of today have become so HGTV brainwashed that if the fridge is not stainless the milk will not stay cold.

It is unfortunate that these people shown on TV making these ridiculous statements, "like I hate the ceiling fan"...etc....are giving potential buyers these crazy notions that these are valid reasons for not buying a home

Now in your case, you say you have an ocean view, that is always going to be there, your refridgerator is not.
I know I can buy another fridge, if need be, but i know I cant just place an order for an ocean to be in front of my windows.
so obviously the ocean view would be the selling point...that a sensible person would recognise.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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The people of today have become so HGTV brainwashed that if the fridge is not stainless the milk will not stay cold.
I bought this sweet 2 bed bungalow just over three years ago. By then I was well versed in Holmes on Homes and DIY. My poor realtor probably was about to go crazy, every house we looked at I was looking at tearing down walls, looking under the carpet for hard wood, checking windows for air leaks, and re-designing the kitchen.

The inspector showed me an outside faucet and said the city requires a water back-up gizmo in case it floods. I gave him a look, looked down the street that slopes down for three blocks and told him it wasn't going to flood here. Still don't have that gizmo, but discovered the ground pushes up antique screws and nails.

Seems many of those Property Bro's people should be on Property Virgins... for some experience.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: The Middle
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So as I have complained earlier I find the show annoying because if Jonathan was such a pro he would have caught a lot of issues before renovating. Yes, I know its scripted but its stupid. The other night I could sleep and reruns were playing. A young couple buys a house and then Jonathan notices the kitchen sink isn't draining properly. Turns out the plumbing is shot to the street. Really? No one turned on a faucet before buying? So replacing the sewer pipe wiped out quite a bit of the budget. Stupid things like that make me dislike the show.
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