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Old 07-08-2012, 12:50 PM
 
Location: PA (work in NJ)
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Right! Maybe they should get Holmes to go after the Property Brothers for their lax inspections.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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So as I have complained earlier I find the show annoying because if Jonathan was such a pro he would have caught a lot of issues before renovating. Yes, I know its scripted but its stupid. The other night I could sleep and reruns were playing. A young couple buys a house and then Jonathan notices the kitchen sink isn't draining properly. Turns out the plumbing is shot to the street. Really? No one turned on a faucet before buying? So replacing the sewer pipe wiped out quite a bit of the budget. Stupid things like that make me dislike the show.
I saw that episode. What I want to know is why that one homeowner (who is on national television) couldn't wash his greasy hair?
Every time they showed him he looked like he just woke up out of bed.
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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I really want to like this show, I really do... but I can't. I really like the designs and decor they come up with. That's about where my enthusiasm for the show ends. My many issues include (as some other posts have said):

1. Like another post said, where the hell to couples in their 20s in Canada come up with a budget of $600K-$800K to purchase a house, then dump another $40-60K into it, albeit only on the inside and usually confined to the kitchen and living area? Can Toronto real estate be compared to Martha's Vineyard, Beverly Hills, the Hamptons or what? And most of them don't strike me as rocket scientists...
2. To extend off of point 1, and as another poster observed, the reno is confined to the interior and usually to a kitchen / living area. The homes are usually eyesores themselves - in the Midwest some of the crap they are selling in Toronto for $500K could be had here for $100K or less. Bad landscaping, no curb appeal...really? You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. The FIRST thing on my agenda would be to get the outside of the house in shape, which by the looks of most of the houses would cost more than the interior reno projects that are being done. Maybe that's just me... my house is 1900 sq. ft, full finished basement, 2 car garage, in ground swimming pool (5 years old), covered patio, great neighborhood, updated all around, etc. It appraises for $207,000. I'm not bragging, but I look at those houses and cringe when people drop nearly a cool million on what I have.
3. When the actual reno takes place, hammers are flying, drywall is being crushed, cabinets are torn up, walls taken down, you get the picture. They inevitably find issues they hadn't expected - knob and tube wiring, a hidden furnace run, leaking pipes. My favorite find was a badly damaged ceiling that was covered with a drop ceiling - they were surprised to see damage! Did anyone ever think to maybe lift up of the drop ceiling tiles to look?? That would have taken about 5 seconds to do. Better yet, the reno team may have knew about the damage, and "finding" it on the show just makes more dramatic TV. And, there is never any mention of the hazards of renovation. I'm definitely not an expert or a contractor, but there's quite a bit of evidence amassed concerning building material containing asbestos and lead paint, but they seem to just let the sledgehammers fly...

I know many other posts mentioned most of this stuff, and I know it's supposed to be entertainment. At least Holmes on Homes appears to address true problems and features homeowners who appear genuinely distressed about their situation. I've done searches on Holmes and can find very little negative about the show, so I'm a fan. The only thing I could really find was a YouTube video by one of his competitors in Canada that claimed Holmes was not a home inspector - I don't think he ever professes to be a licensed home inspector, but his inspections evidently are MUCH better that the local licensed guys you find in the yellow pages. I'm tired of trying to find REAL reality TV these days...

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Old 10-12-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I agree with the poster above. Yes, I too think, these youngins' are definetely not rocket scientists, where do they get 600K, for a first time house? Beats the hell outta me....


One thing I really can't stand is kicking walls, bashing around a sledge hammer, "laughing and giggling", as a middle age man that has done many a demo's, it just makes me cringe.
You just don't walk in and bash away, you need a plan, and a schedule....

I love when they say OK, lets remove this wall....some walls are load bearing, you just can't rip on down because you fell like it.

morons, total morons.

plus, sorry, the property brothers are ugly. I just don't feel this program

Where are my kitchen cousins, more pleasing to the eye.



I miss Sandra!!!!!
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Sudcaroland
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The thing that annoys me most about the reno is the fact they always have a little budget, have to give up doing certain things because of unexpected building issues, but will always buy brand new furniture and accessories! Can't they just work with pieces the owners already own?
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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I would think these reno shows have already covered the bases when it comes to plumbing, electrical, load bearing, decor, etc. Not sure how they do this in Canada but I suspect like most places in the U.S., in order to do some of the reno's, the local governments are going to require permits. At least that what I gather from watching Mike Holmes. And Scott McGillivray.

I don't think any of these shows are going in blind or failing to anticipate those additional costs. But none of these shows seems to be a 'not for profit' production. I mean, we're not watching this on PBS. Being 'for profit', there's probably all kinds of contracts and agreements meant to cover the program's precious A$$.

Given the above, all those things that may irritate us, those surprises, the budgets, all the drama is just exactly that. Why would we watch if it was just the butt crack blue jean construction crew that comes in, does a job, and leaves the keys to the pad in the mail box? Watch the list of the show's sponsors at the end... they want YOU to get excited about reno, and come shopping.

So really... these are just 30 minute or one hour product promotion shows.

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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I guess at least the show is not about Honey Boo-Boo, swamp rednecks, drunken / screaming / fighting rich housewives, fake storage sales, more screaming housewives with dancing kids, stupid pregnant teens, etc.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: The Middle
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I guess at least the show is not about Honey Boo-Boo, swamp rednecks, drunken / screaming / fighting rich housewives, fake storage sales, more screaming housewives with dancing kids, stupid pregnant teens, etc.
LOL! No kidding.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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I guess at least the show is not about Honey Boo-Boo, swamp rednecks, drunken / screaming / fighting rich housewives, fake storage sales, more screaming housewives with dancing kids, stupid pregnant teens, etc.
Well, you're right about that. And sometimes they do present some good reno ideas. Maybe someone should ask Honey Boo Boo (gawd, I can believed I typed that name) what she thinks about the reno shows.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: In the city
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I keep seeing the episode with the young Asian couple who wants a house "downtown". I can't TELL you how irritating I find those two little insufferable snobs. They HAVE to have a restaurant quality stove, a custom closet, Calcutta marble, etc. I want to smack them both. I kept thinking -- where are they getting this money? Then I realized, oh yeah, mommy and daddy are probably footing the bill.
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