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Old 06-27-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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They have always canceled shows with regard to ratings. It makes no sense not to. Can't spend money on things if no one is watching.
No, Netflix was were some shows went to get resolution. And people were watching, maybe not as many as they wanted but the least they could do is provide a resolution and then cancel.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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The following shows have just been dumped from the primetime schedule to make room for new Fall pilots.
First, they weren't *just* dumped. They were cancelled over the last few months. That's what we've been discussing over the last 1400 posts.

They were cancelled (or not renewed) because the ratings aren't what the network wanted, and they are making a calculated gamble that whatever takes its place will do better. Sometimes they win, sometimes not.

For some networks, they need the room. CBS et al have a limited prime-time schedule, so yes, every new one requires something to give. Others have plenty of "room". For example, if USA wants to add a new show, and really doesn't want to cancel anything, they just find a slot and add it. That slot might have had a rerun or other syndicated show currently in it.

As for Netflix, they really really don't have to make room. Remember, they're streaming, so unlimited room. They just cancel what doesn't work for them.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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No, Netflix was were some shows went to get resolution. And people were watching, maybe not as many as they wanted but the least they could do is provide a resolution and then cancel.
Netflix picked up a handful of shows that were canceled because their model fit the number of viewers. That was the exception not the rule.

We would all love closure but they arent going to keep a show that no one is watching simply because the few that watch it want it. They are a hugely profitable company but throwing good money after will put an end to that quickly.
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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I havent been able to get through half an episode of a sitcom without cringing and diving for the remote in probably a decade. I didn't laugh out loud at DD but I did chuckle occasionally and it was definitely watchable. I don't understand.
I have a weird mind and sense of humor. I just like it. It works for me. While the masses like other things I never find funny, which I don't understand, I am left with nothing much to watch, or i have to endure bloody shows like Preacher. At least that one has action and humor. But it is gross.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:02 PM
 
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First, they weren't *just* dumped. They were cancelled over the last few months. That's what we've been discussing over the last 1400 posts.

They were cancelled (or not renewed) because the ratings aren't what the network wanted, and they are making a calculated gamble that whatever takes its place will do better. Sometimes they win, sometimes not.

For some networks, they need the room. CBS et al have a limited prime-time schedule, so yes, every new one requires something to give. Others have plenty of "room". For example, if USA wants to add a new show, and really doesn't want to cancel anything, they just find a slot and add it. That slot might have had a rerun or other syndicated show currently in it.

As for Netflix, they really really don't have to make room. Remember, they're streaming, so unlimited room. They just cancel what doesn't work for them.
Relax, I didn't put in any editorial thought. Just copied it straight from here.
https://www.yahoo.com/style/20-tv-sh...212500834.html

I thought there was value in the list.
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Old 06-28-2017, 05:31 AM
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They have always canceled shows with regard to ratings. It makes no sense not to.
I disagree. Prior to May 24, they had only canceled ten series and had 151 series in various states, either upcoming, airing, returning soon, or on hiatus. Many of those series on hiatus were unheralded by viewers. It has been clear to me that Netflix has been throwing up series after series without much regard to canceling those that fared poorly. That seems to be changing.
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Old 06-28-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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I disagree. Prior to May 24, they had only canceled ten series and had 151 series in various states, either upcoming, airing, returning soon, or on hiatus. Many of those series on hiatus were unheralded by viewers. It has been clear to me that Netflix has been throwing up series after series without much regard to canceling those that fared poorly. That seems to be changing.
Exactly!
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Old 06-28-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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I disagree. Prior to May 24, they had only canceled ten series and had 151 series in various states, either upcoming, airing, returning soon, or on hiatus. Many of those series on hiatus were unheralded by viewers. It has been clear to me that Netflix has been throwing up series after series without much regard to canceling those that fared poorly. That seems to be changing.
Agree to disagree. I think now you are starting to see it reported more because they have been hammered about their viewership. You can find countless 1 season and done Netflix originals. The difference is that they didnt have headline grabbing casts like Sense8* (LGBT) or The Get Down (diversity) or Girlboss (about a woman created by a woman) and no one was really putting their viewership under a microscope.

*Sense8 also had insane production costs.
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:13 AM
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I disagree. Prior to May 24, they had only canceled ten series...
You can find countless 1 season and done Netflix originals.
This is simply not a true statement. The number wasn't "countless". I counted. The number was 10. It's now 14. Countable. They aren't one and done because you feel they are; they aren't one and done until Netflix cancels the series. And Netflix hasn't cancelled 147 series. And that was my point. If your disagreement was contingent on your assumption that the number of canceled series was countless, then you should reconsider on that basis alone.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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This is simply not a true statement. The number wasn't "countless". I counted. The number was 10. It's now 14. Countable. They aren't one and done because you feel they are; they aren't one and done until Netflix cancels the series. And Netflix hasn't cancelled 147 series. And that was my point. If your disagreement was contingent on your assumption that the number of canceled series was countless, then you should reconsider on that basis alone.
Fine it is countable since we're hanging on that word. It doesnt change the point. The point is that their renewal cancellation has always been contingent on number of viewers. How else do you gauge the success or failure of a show? How else do you justify production costs for a show? It is just getting the press now when it didnt before.
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