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Unread 11-25-2008, 12:48 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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So, I'm hearing that the title of the first episode is "Because You Left"and the first scene has Sawyer, Juliet, Bernard, and Rose in it.

Also, one of the following is true in the premiere:

1. The Island moved forward in time.
2. The Island moved backward in time.
3. The Island did not move in time, but it did move in space -- to another location on the planet.
4. The Island did not move in time or space -- it's still there, but Dharma tech renders it invisible to the naked eye.

I'm guessing #4.
Here's my take on this whole scenario....remember, it's just an opinion.

The Dharma initiative discovered a "wormhole" over the island. They have done several experiments and discovered the island was an asteroid or a collection of space debris that attracts a wormhole to the island. The Dharma Initiative found a way to manipulate the powers of the island using the wormhole. Think of the highly contraversial and criticized Bermuda Triangle on a smaller scale! May be extra-terrestrial in origin as a possible aspect of the island moving or dissappearing.

Just a thought .....
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Unread 11-25-2008, 03:33 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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Here's my take on this whole scenario....remember, it's just an opinion.

The Dharma initiative discovered a "wormhole" over the island. They have done several experiments and discovered the island was an asteroid or a collection of space debris that attracts a wormhole to the island. The Dharma Initiative found a way to manipulate the powers of the island using the wormhole. Think of the highly contraversial and criticized Bermuda Triangle on a smaller scale! May be extra-terrestrial in origin as a possible aspect of the island moving or dissappearing.

Just a thought .....
Interesting - I like the wormhole theory. Actually, I'm watching the History Channel as we speak and they're discussing wormholes in space and how one could time travel inside one.
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Unread 11-25-2008, 03:54 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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I doubt JJ Abrams will ever reveal the true answer behind the enigma of the island and it's special "gifts!"
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Unread 11-25-2008, 04:41 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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This is how I came up with the theory above!
The scientist mentions the casimir effect. Listen....
Dailymotion - Dharma Initiative: The Orchid from Comicon 07, a video from anil31. Dharma, Initiative:, The, Orchid, 15

The explanation of the casimir effect on wormholes is about 3/4's of the way down on the wiki site....
Casimir effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Unread 11-25-2008, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I doubt JJ Abrams will ever reveal the true answer behind the enigma of the island and it's special "gifts!"
He will if he values his life! lots of angry LOST fans will otherwise be chasing after him! the creator of The Sopranos left the freaking country to avoid the backlash! Abrams should take not and try not to p*ss off too many fans (not matter what, I'm sure some fans will get pissed off w/ the ending)

we've gotten hints about wormholes and the Casimir effect since Season 3 ("only fools are enslaved by time and space") and I'm sure this theory explains most of what's happening on the island
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Unread 11-25-2008, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Murrieta, CA.
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He will if he values his life! lots of angry LOST fans will otherwise be chasing after him!
LOL Definitely.

And I think the possibility of time travel and wormholes are absofreakinlutely possible and probable.
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Unread 11-25-2008, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Turn right at the stop sign
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Well if you look back at previous posts from around the time of the last episodes written by others, myself included, the Casimir Effect, time travel, wormholes, antipodal points, and other issues dealing with time and space have been discussed and theories developed around them.

I personally believed that the island moved both physically and most probably in time. If you rewatch the final episode and pay attention to the moment just after the island disappeared, you will notice that the water appears to be swirling, like when it goes down a drain. Wormhole opens up under the island and away it goes. Or as an alternate, I posited that the island could have levitated upward out of view (levitation accomplished via reversing the Casimir Effect). Also, I theorized that the key to where they island might now be could possibly been found in the page from Daniel Faraday's notebook. I interpreted the drawing this way: it showed either the location of all the DHARMA stations on the island, or it was showing the island and the other points to which one could travel through time from the island or even where the island itself could go.

Not trying to paint myself as the resident "Lost" expert here or imply that my theories are the best. Just pointing out that a lot of good information was posted by many on here and I would hate to see it get overlooked. Especially since so much of it provides great building blocks for future theories once the new season gets underway in January.
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Unread 11-26-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I like all these theories. One that takes into account both wormholes AND portals interests me. We know that there are other points around the globe that are of interest in this show.

The idea of the island going up into the sky like in the comic book is interesting because maybe there's some arc or tangent to which it can fall back onto once the time is right; say the island stays suspended in the sky and the earth continues rotating underneath it and it basically comes right back down, but in a different portal.

I miss the hatch.
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Unread 11-26-2008, 04:38 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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I miss the hatch.
Ahhhh, yes - the simpler days on the island when all we had to ponder was who or what was in the hatch.
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Unread 11-26-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Ahhhh, yes - the simpler days on the island when all we had to ponder was who or what was in the hatch.
well (mild spoilers in white below),

according to the new promo, it looks like Daniel stumbles upon a hatch of some sort. a guy in a HAZMAT suit is apparently attacking him. that scene in the promo reminded me so much of Kelvin that it makes me wonder if it's not connected somehow. anyways, I'm sure there'll be a few more hatches discovered this season

but yeah, I miss the hatch too, and it's amazing how many questions I have about it that still weren't answered (damn you Locke!!)
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