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Old 04-28-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Jenny's husband said that when the siblings have their claws dug into one another no one better get in the way. It was something to that affect.
So, not only was Claire unexpected and all that but she had really bad timing on when to speak up.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Claire is a woman out of her own time. As a nurse during WWII, she would have been expected to be knowledgeable, capable, and to have a certain amount of autonomy. She is still having trouble remembering when she is. To those of us on the outside, her behavior gets exasperating at times.

Jenny has a strong personality, too. She has been the "woman of the house" since her mother died - before she was even in her teens. She, too, knows how to handle responsibility.

The relationship between Claire and Jenny is complex, and the film version really does not have time to set up the nuances. Let's just say that both of them love Jamie, that love eventually brings them together, and Jenny can be a spitfire, with sparks flying between her and Jamie, and at times, Claire.
beautifully described!!!

Jenny, reminds me of me.....lol
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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Sam/Jamie made it to the finals. And up against Colin O'Donoghue/Captain Hook.
(I like Capt Hook, but I don't consider him an Alpha Male at all.)

Alpha Male Madness 2015: Final Round
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Northeastern U.S.
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Sam Heughan looks like a wilted flower in real life, at least compared to how he looks onscreen as Jamie Fraser. It's the same man, but the hair and outfits and body language are all very different.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Terra
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I watched Lallybroch again and one thing really bothered me about that episode. They really made Jenny seem like an unlikable character. She's actually someone you root for and I found very little to like about her in that episode and how they portrayed her - especially her interaction with Claire. I understand Ron Moore's motivation with this episode in wanting to show how difficult it is to reintegrate into life at Lallybroch for Jamie but I feel this was done at the expense of Jenny's likability.
I sort of have the opposite reaction to this episode. I really like it and also understand Ron Moore's reasons for portraying Jenny the way he did. But then, I've always felt ambivalent about Jenny - I love that she is another strong female, but she's not my favorite character, I can tolerate her, but I certainly do NOT like her for what she does in book 3! Let's just she can be quite convinced of her own righteousness, at the expense of others...
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Old 05-02-2015, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Sam Heughan looks like a wilted flower in real life, at least compared to how he looks onscreen as Jamie Fraser. It's the same man, but the hair and outfits and body language are all very different.
I know, right? A recent picture of him surprised me. Even his physique looked different - quite thin with spindly legs. A big difference from the brawny hunk Jamie Fraser! I like him much better as Jamie.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I sort of have the opposite reaction to this episode. I really like it and also understand Ron Moore's reasons for portraying Jenny the way he did. But then, I've always felt ambivalent about Jenny - I love that she is another strong female, but she's not my favorite character, I can tolerate her, but I certainly do NOT like her for what she does in book 3! Let's just she can be quite convinced of her own righteousness, at the expense of others...
Yes, she bugged me GREATLY there as well. I think her sense of 'rightness' is much like Jamie's. Remember the whole controversial spanking? Jamie was convinced he must do it because it was his duty as a husband. One of the interesting aspects of this story in general is how Claire's influence is able to change Jamie into a more modern man in terms of his thought process of how wives "should" be. Jenny would not have the benefit of Claire's influence in that regard.
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Old 05-02-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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It was brief.....

yanno I was thinking while watching last night, maybe Clair, didn't go back, b/c she has dealt with Randall, and he reminds her to much of her husband? (just a thought) I'd stay with Jamie in a heartbeat! And that isn't fair of me to say, b/c Frank seems very kind and in love with her as well.
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Later, it will become a huge dilemma for Claire. If Jamie or someone else, kills the evil Randall, who she thinks is Frank's ancestor, will Frank never have existed? If Frank never existed, she would never have been in Scotland to go through the stones, and meet Jamie. It is really one of the central themes.
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:43 PM
 
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Later, it will become a huge dilemma for Claire. If Jamie or someone else, kills the evil Randall, who she thinks is Frank's ancestor, will Frank never have existed? If Frank never existed, she would never have been in Scotland to go through the stones, and meet Jamie. It is really one of the central themes.


soon to be on, can't wait
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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Jenny's thick skull doesn't bother me in the least. It came with the territory so to speak. She's been the "lady" of the house since a girl when Ellen (her mother) died in childbirth.
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