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[Hobokenkitchen]

Goodness!

Bethany looks so great given that she just had a baby - lucky girl to get her figure back so quickly!

Interesting how the two 'teams' are sitting. I thought Ramona said that Jill was one of her best friends? Sure doesn't seem like it!

I do find it weird that Bethany would forgive Ramona for the crazy stuff that she said, and that Alex would forgive Ramona for the previous two years of awful things she said about them - but neither of them can forgive Jill.

I do think it's sad that Jill wouldn't forgive Bethany and now Bethany won't forgive Jill. What a mess. They really are as bad as each other when it comes to this.
I think it's so nice that Jill came out and say that she loved Bethany. And then Bethany repays her by attacking her again. I've said all along, that Bethany holds a lot of responsibilty for the failure of the relationship. They BOTH have behaved badly, not just Jill.

Poor Kelly is just a hot mess. I feel bad for her.

Alex has got so confrontational - and to show no remorse at all for the way she handled 'the message' giving kind of sucks. Ugh.

[PippySkiddles]

Originally Posted by Hobokenkitchen

Goodness!

Bethany looks so great given that she just had a baby - lucky girl to get her figure back so quickly!

Interesting how the two 'teams' are sitting. I thought Ramona said that Jill was one of her best friends? Sure doesn't seem like it!

I do find it weird that Bethany would forgive Ramona for the crazy stuff that she said, and that Alex would forgive Ramona for the previous two years of awful things she said about them - but neither of them can forgive Jill.

I do think it's sad that Jill wouldn't forgive Bethany and now Bethany won't forgive Jill. What a mess. They really are as bad as each other when it comes to this.

Poor Kelly is just a hot mess. I feel bad for her.

Alex has got so confrontational - and to show no remorse at all for the way she handled 'the message' giving kind of sucks. Ugh.

Bethenny could forgive Ramona because Ramona STOPPED being a biotch and they moved on. Jill won't stop being a biotch.
Jill had her chance many times. When someone shuts you down often enough.....well everyone has their limits.
Poor Kelly? Really.......why?
Alex too had reached her Jill limit. She should show no remorse but Jill should.

[Hobokenkitchen]

Originally Posted by PippySkiddles

Bethenny could forgive Ramona because Ramona STOPPED being a biotch and they moved on. Jill won't stop being a biotch.
Jill had her chance many times. When someone shuts you down often enough.....well everyone has their limits.
Poor Kelly? Really.......why?
Alex too had reached her Jill limit. She should show no remorse but Jill should.

Poor Kelly because she's clearly unable to deal with this situation and probably shouldn't be involved.... for her own benefit. Can you not see that she's hopelessly out of her depth???

Why had Alex reached her limit with Jill. What has Jill done to Alex that Ramona hasn't? And did she not also apologize? And hasn't Alex slammed Jill back to at LEAST the same level?

Ramona has not stopped being a ***** - she's just aiming it at different people. She's a complete nutjob... but I still loved her renewal ceremony with her crazy husband. : )

I don't know - watching this I am seeing Jill apologizing and apologizing and saying that she loves Bethany and Bethany refusing to listen at all.... exactly as Jill did to her. I can't understand how everyone sees only Jill as the bad guy. They are both responsible.

It seems to me, that because Jill behaved as she did it's become acceptable for people to attack her and they are taking full advantage of it - especially Alex.

[PippySkiddles]

Originally Posted by Hobokenkitchen

Poor Kelly because she's clearly unable to deal with this situation and probably shouldn't be involved.... for her own benefit. Can you not see that she's hopelessly out of her depth???

Why had Alex reached her limit with Jill. What has Jill done to Alex that Ramona hasn't? And did she not also apologize? And hasn't Alex slammed Jill back to at LEAST the same level?

Ramona has not stopped being a ***** - she's just aiming it at different people. She's a complete nutjob... but I still loved her renewal ceremony with her crazy husband. : )

I don't know - watching this I am seeing Jill apologizing and apologizing and saying that she loves Bethany and Bethany refusing to listen at all.... exactly as Jill did to her. I can't understand how everyone sees only Jill as the bad guy. They are both responsible.

It seems to me, that because Jill behaved as she did it's become acceptable for people to attack her and they are taking full advantage of it - especially Alex.

oh I do see that KooKooKelly is out of her element. She needs to be in a padded cell.
Ramona is more likeable and owns what she says and does. She still needs a filter at times but she knows that.
Jill,on the other hand is so full of cow dookie and won't own up to "most" of what she does. When cornered or feeling sorry for what she has done and seeing her consequences ,Jill might fess up. Most of the time though she won't. She herself says she is what she is and won't change.
The attacks didn't come out of left field. She brought it on. I think she had a lot of fans before this season. She had a lot of viewers who once rooted for her but enough is enough. Her teaming up with the disCountess was a lot of her downfall. Away from disCountess she seemed able to reconcile her behavior--too little too late.

[Hopes]

What's up with these women stomping off the set? Jill and Kelly act like children.

The countess really does need to lose the one-shoulder outfits.

[taydev]

ok, i have to agree with some of your points hoboken. i have stated this before on this thread: i really think that jill was genuinley a nice sweet girl. i think the fame got to her head, and this is something i noticed during season 2, and bethenny affirmed this to me when she mentioned that in the reunion. i would like to see the girls be friends again because jill seems absolutely sincere that she wants to be apart of her life. i also do understand that jill dismissed her 3 times and to be honest, i would have given up to. i think bethenny was forgiving of jills behavior but it takes time to build the trust again. i really think they were going 2 different places at the time where bethenny changed for the better and jill for the worse. i hope jill really changes for the better because i miss the old jill, she was such a lovable character.

[taydev]

Originally Posted by Hobokenkitchen

Poor Kelly because she's clearly unable to deal with this situation and probably shouldn't be involved.... for her own benefit. Can you not see that she's hopelessly out of her depth???

Why had Alex reached her limit with Jill. What has Jill done to Alex that Ramona hasn't? And did she not also apologize? And hasn't Alex slammed Jill back to at LEAST the same level?

Ramona has not stopped being a ***** - she's just aiming it at different people. She's a complete nutjob... but I still loved her renewal ceremony with her crazy husband. : )

I don't know - watching this I am seeing Jill apologizing and apologizing and saying that she loves Bethany and Bethany refusing to listen at all.... exactly as Jill did to her. I can't understand how everyone sees only Jill as the bad guy. They are both responsible.

It seems to me, that because Jill behaved as she did it's become acceptable for people to attack her and they are taking full advantage of it - especially Alex.

i agree. she's a very stupid girl.

i think bethenny is listening but it may be hard for her to jump right back to were they were as friends because the trust is gone. plus, bethenny is like that about relationships, i mean, look at where she came from with her parents.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by taydev

i would like to see the girls be friends again because jill seems absolutely sincere that she wants to be apart of her life.

I can understand Bethany's problem with Jason not liking Jill. People can lose some friends when they get married. Not every friend FITS into the new relationship.

Perhaps Jill and Bethany can have lunch on occassion, but there's no way they could ever be super close now that Bethany is married to someone who does not like Jill.

Jill will have to live with the consequences of her disregarding Jason when she met him. First impressions matter.

[Samwil]

I loved Andy showing the "reunion" parody on WWHL. "Money can't buy you class!!"" Just too funny.

[taydev]

Originally Posted by Hopes

I can understand Bethany's problem with Jason not liking Jill. People can lose some friends when they get married. Not every friend FITS into the new relationship.

Perhaps Jill and Bethany can have lunch on occassion, but there's no way they could ever be super close now that Bethany is married to someone who does not like Jill.

Jill will have to live with the consequences of her disregarding Jason when she met him. First impressions matter.

oh yea, this is true and her hubby does come first.