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Old 11-19-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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I thought Ayana's pieces were original and aesthetically pleasing. Some of her pants were so amazing I would have worn them. Like Tim always says, "it's a matter of taste." There's nothing anyone can do about that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I liked stuff from each one, but no one made me " Yes! Awesome work!"
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Old 11-19-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: La Costa, California
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I really thought Kentaro would win because he was the most conceptual, and that's what one would look for in a New York runway show.


I enjoyed reading your thoughtful post bmwguydc. I agree with much of what you wrote though I was rooting for Margarita and am a little more charatible towards some of her missteps.

I too thought it quite bold to mention Herrera, and De La Renta, but I don't think she really "compared" herself to them rather she said she would like to become like them.

Funny, If you remember in about the second challenge Margarita did what looked to me like a Mexican Fiesta dress and got serious criticism. She then moved away from the Latin influence and did some OK designs that showed some talent and sewing skill I thought. For the final she went back too far into the tropical look but I really thought she could have had a shot if she had found a middle ground.

I had posted here earlier that I didn't think Brandon stood a chance for the reasons that did play out. So I was not surprised that Kentaro won. As you wrote his was the only real Fashion Week quality show.

Ayana was limited even more so than Brandon. I understand the modesty thing for her religion, but I keep thinking it's kinda like on Top Chef. Even when the Chef is a vegitarian, they have to cook meat at times to compete in the challenges. They have to cook it, they don't have to eat it.

If Ayana felt she had to stay totally with the modest things well, OK, but she's not going to win Fashion Week which is full of people interested in marketing fashion.

I enjoyed the season though watching some of those flashbacks I see yeah there were much stronger groups. At least we have All-stars coming up
Dave

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Old 11-19-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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I enjoyed reading your thoughtful post bmwguydc. I agree with much of what you wrote though I was rooting for Margarita and am a little more charatible towards some of her missteps.

I too thought it quite bold to mention Herrera, and De La Renta, but I don't think she really "compared" herself to them rather she said she would like to become like them.

Funny, If you remember in about the second challenge Margarita did what looked to me like a Mexican Fiesta dress and got serious criticism. She then moved away from the Latin influence and did some OK designs that showed some talent and sewing skill I thought. For the final she went back too far into the tropical look but I really thought she could have had a shot if she had found a middle ground.

I had posted here earlier that I didn't think Brandon stood a chance for the reasons that did play out. So I was not surprised that Kentaro won. As you wrote his was the only real Fashion Week quality show.

Ayana was limited even more so than Brandon. I understand the modesty thing for her religion, but I keep thinking it's kinda like on Top Chef. Even when the Chef is a vegitarian, they have to cook meat at times to compete in the challenges. They have to cook it, they don't have to eat it.

If Ayana felt she had to stay totally with the modest things well, OK, but she's not going to win Fashion Week which is full of people interested in marketing fashion.

I enjoyed the season though watching some of those flashbacks I see yeah there were much stronger groups. At least we have All-stars coming up
Dave
That is true, she did want to move into the Carolina Herrera/Oscar de la Renta space, not exactly comparing herself to them right now. I think she has talent, too, and liked some of her work, but it was cheapened by the profanity. Tim saw something in her, and with his expertise in the field, I do not think he is wrong. And, her family is lovely, such that I do not see the parents as the type to use profane language with the regularity that was portrayed (no doubt some edited for drama as it's reality TV).
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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Watched the finale. I was not impressed with any of the collections.
Overall, I agree with this assessment. It was especially apparent to me when I watched the 15 minute "extra" clip that they run between episodes where they showed the winning collections of the last 10 (?) winners at NYFW. It was a reminder of how excellent and striking many of the past designs were compared to the blah that was on the runway this time around.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Southern, NJ
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Personally I preferred Brandon's collection. I thought his was very wearable. IMO
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:47 PM
 
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Anyone watch the reunion show?

I thought it was OK. They seemed to give Ayana more air time than anyone else. Not sure what the reason was for that. Almost giving the impression that she should have been the winner instead of Kentaro.

I'm not sure how much time had passed between the finale and the reunion show but I wish they would have asked them what they have been doing or what their plans are for the future.
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:09 AM
 
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I think they gave way to much airtime to the "twins". I found that whole thing completely tedious.

The rest of it, was nice enough. Though I missed maybe the last 15 minutes? I had to take care of something and it was right after Tim said he had a clip he would show right after the break........
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:18 AM
 
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Now that I think about it you are so right. They did give a lot of time to the twins that could have been given to others who deserve it more.

The clip you might be referring to was of Tim and some of the funny things he said or his expressions when talking to the designers.

I am looking forward to the all star show. The only thing I don't like is the different hostess and judges.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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Yes, the reunion show was a little too friendly and polite. Good for Amy for going after Twin#2. Can't believe that one denied what everyone knew that she did. Did you see Twin#1 mouthing right along with her? They obviously planned what she would say.

I'm looking forward to the next season, too, but not because it's All Stars, I just like Project Runway. I'm tired of too many of the All Stars in the upcoming season - let's have more NEW people, not rehash old losers. Not that I won't be watching!

I actually love Isaac Mizrahi as a judge. I've never figured out why Alyssa Milano is even on there though - she's not particularly fashionable and she's not particularly good as a host. Surely they could have come up with someone better.

And Tim Gunn just cannot be equaled as mentor by anyone.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Yes, the reunion show was a little too friendly and polite. Good for Amy for going after Twin#2. Can't believe that one denied what everyone knew that she did. Did you see Twin#1 mouthing right along with her? They obviously planned what she would say.

I'm looking forward to the next season, too, but not because it's All Stars, I just like Project Runway. I'm tired of too many of the All Stars in the upcoming season - let's have more NEW people, not rehash old losers. Not that I won't be watching!

I actually love Isaac Mizrahi as a judge. I've never figured out why Alyssa Milano is even on there though - she's not particularly fashionable and she's not particularly good as a host. Surely they could have come up with someone better.

And Tim Gunn just cannot be equaled as mentor by anyone.
No kidding...............why, oh why is she on there??
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