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Old 12-15-2017, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Exactly. The whole point of the series is delving into the family dynamics.
Yes. I have never been a "royal watcher", but I have been very interested in the manner in which this family apparently operated (of course, a bit fictionalized). How interesting that modern British history evolved so much based on divorce (for example), both in the cases of Edward's abdication and Margaret's romance. I also found the relationship between the PM and the Queen to be interesting.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Yes. I have never been a "royal watcher", but I have been very interested in the manner in which this family apparently operated (of course, a bit fictionalized). How interesting that modern British history evolved so much based on divorce (for example), both in the cases of Edward's abdication and Margaret's romance. I also found the relationship between the PM and the Queen to be interesting.
I've never been interested in the modern royals at all. Could not possibly care less. But I'm loving THE CROWN. It's a great drama. If I had to pick a central theme, it would be Duty. How everyone in the show tries (or not) to do their duty and the sacrifices they have to make to do so. Elizabeth definitely comes across as an admirable heroine.

I too found the episodes around divorce sadly ironic, considering that the entire reason the Church of England exists is because Henry VIII wanted a divorce. Divorce was the Founding Event of the C of E.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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It'll be interesting to see how many seasons they do and how close to current times they get. I wonder who they'll get to take over the role of the Queen. I couldn't really see Claire Foy playing a nonagenarian. ;-)

I finished the second season a little while ago ... enjoyed it, though not as much as the first season. I actually kind of missed Churchill and could have used more Margaret. And considering how extraodinary the casting has been on this show, it was very disappointing to see how distractingly bad the casting of the Kennedys was.
Yes! The character of Jackie K. was awful, and they got her hair totally wrong. SPOILER!!!!

If memory serves, her voice was totally different. But her hair! I looked at actual pics and her hair was sooo much better in real life. And, frankly, Jackie herself photographed better as well. For a character to have been educated as she was, she spoke without a trace of it. And the scene where Kennedy supposedly attacked her! Nowhere have I read that JFK was abusive, although we all know now about his philandering.

Other than that, I liked the series. It does take liberties with history. Apparently Philip was never implicated in the Profumo scandal. You can look up this stuff though.
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Old 12-17-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: prescott az
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The relationship between Philip and Elizabeth is so fascinating. I wonder if he is so protective of her in real life. Truly he has had a hard life, his dignity and manhood in question all the time. I wonder about the possible ballerina affair. Truth or fiction?
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Old 12-17-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The relationship between Philip and Elizabeth is so fascinating. I wonder if he is so protective of her in real life. Truly he has had a hard life, his dignity and manhood in question all the time. I wonder about the possible ballerina affair. Truth or fiction?
I wouldn't exactly say a "hard life".
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Old 12-17-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Calif
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Yes! The character of Jackie K. was awful, and they got her hair totally wrong. SPOILER!!!!

If memory serves, her voice was totally different. But her hair! I looked at actual pics and her hair was sooo much better in real life. And, frankly, Jackie herself photographed better as well. For a character to have been educated as she was, she spoke without a trace of it. And the scene where Kennedy supposedly attacked her! Nowhere have I read that JFK was abusive, although we all know now about his philandering.

Other than that, I liked the series. It does take liberties with history. Apparently Philip was never implicated in the Profumo scandal. You can look up this stuff though.
They really screwed up in who played Jackie and JFK. And it was a load of hogwash to boot. What an insult.
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Old 12-17-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Calif
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Elizabeth has no emotions and is cold as ice. Plus, they are all totally snobby which does not necessarily mean classy. Philip is a wuss and always has been. Even being an old codger, he is still ok with being Elizabeths pet as long as she rewards him with medals, titles or biscuits. No wonder Charles is so screwed up having those two as parents. But...they are not showing anything that I didn't already suspect, so it is still interesting to watch my imagination of what they are like come to life in a netflix flick.
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL; formerly Weston, FL
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Two words—Love It.
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Old 12-20-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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I love this show - Claire Foy is such a good actress. She can display devastation without moving a muscle.


Phillip and Margaret are coming across badly here, and if that is really what the Queen had to put up with, my hat is off to her. I would have banished them both, lol.
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Old 12-20-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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CF does a great job...I think she does the real Queen realistically....but did read she won't be back for season 3...

Phillip was a scoundrel, sorry she had to put up with him, on top of all her very serious duties. She's had quite the life but I'm not envious...feel sorry for her, really. Born with no choices in the matter of her future.





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I love this show - Claire Foy is such a good actress. She can display devastation without moving a muscle.


Phillip and Margaret are coming across badly here, and if that is really what the Queen had to put up with, my hat is off to her. I would have banished them both, lol.
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