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Old 10-08-2009, 11:19 AM
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I am puzzled why anyone would watch a television show about this strange "family" where a man with an over-active penis, repeatedly impregnates his personal receptacle, excuse me, his "wife", who is forced to bear child after child after child. This is perverse

19 pregnancies means her husband has an over active penis? No, it means they've been married 25 years and have made love at least 19 times. Over active penis? What a silly remark.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:50 PM
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I think a true test of love would be for the doctor to come to Michelle and Jim Bob and tell them while they understand that all 19 pregnancies and babies have turned out fine she is getting older and the risks of complications increases. If the doctor were to tell them that her life was in danger if she got pregnant again IF that were the case............ would he stop and not have any more? If he realizes that every pregnancy now was putting his wife in grave jeopardy would he be willing to stop producing and let his wife stop having baby after baby until she dies in childbirth or due to a high risk pregnancy? Same goes for their oldest son that is married if his wife were to develop complications that would jeopardize her life if she was pregnant would he stop? If the man/husband doesn't pay the doctors any attention and continues to let or make his wife pregnant then I can't say they really do love her for who she is. They only love her for being able to reproduce.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:53 PM
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I was younger than Michelle Duggar is now when I had my last child and believe me, the doctors were filled with dire warnings about "older mothers" and tortured me for nine straight months with horror tales of the things that can go wrong for mother, baby, or both.

My son was born fine and healthy; he was planned to be the last (of far less kids than the Duggars).

I have no doubt that the Duggars have been told the risks but that they ignore them anyway.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:09 PM
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I was younger than Michelle Duggar is now when I had my last child and believe me, the doctors were filled with dire warnings about "older mothers" and tortured me for nine straight months with horror tales of the things that can go wrong for mother, baby, or both.

My son was born fine and healthy; he was planned to be the last (of far less kids than the Duggars).

I have no doubt that the Duggars have been told the risks but that they ignore them anyway.
Oh, I am sure they have been told as well. Which just goes to show that Jim Bob does not really have his wifes best interest nor health at heart. The right thing to do even if he doesn't want anymore but she keeps on saying she is "fine" would be for him to put his foot down and say, "NO MORE! I love you way too much and we already have 19 beautiful and wonderful children that are a gift from God. I want you to be here to see them grow, marry and have children of their own some day and for you to experience the joy of being a grandmother. We need to heed the doctors advice and call it quits on this part of our life. There is a time in life for everything and a time for it to end. The time has come for us to end having children and we need to enjoy the ones we do have." Doubt this will ever happen though......

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Old 10-08-2009, 02:14 PM
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Thats one of the main issues I have with their choice to have so many kids. They have heavy expectations of the older children to look after the younger ones in order to lift the burden off themselves. I understand it's probably necessary when you have that many kids... but it's one of the reasons I don't agree with their choice to have so many children. Children should be able to be children but the older ones had to grow up REAL fast and act like secondary parents to the younger ones. No child should be expected to do that, no matter how happy they may seem on TV.
This is how I see it also. I haven't seen much of the show, but when I have, I hardly ever see Michelle taking care of the little ones. She has even said that the older ones are assigned to the care of the younger ones.

On the other hand, I'm surprised that they all seem well rounded and happy, and nice, and genuine. They let the boys be boys and don't scream at them for being loud in the house, and the boys get to wear different clothes. The girls have to wear the same old type of clothes, with a sad perm. One of the younger boys is pretty funny. I don't remember his name. I just know it starts with a J.

For whoever was wondering about one of the girls going down a different path, thats already happened. I read where their oldest girl doesn't live with them because she was a little wild, maybe.

Does anyone know which side of the family Cousin Amy comes from? I really like her. On a related issue, I've always wondered why an audience applauds so much when a large family comes on a show, like Oprah. Another think I don't like about that many kids is that you can't possibly spend much quality time with each one at all.
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I have to admit it, I love the friggin' Duggars! I generally hate reality TV shows, but "18 Kids & Counting" is one of my guilty pleasures. I'm riveted.

So here's my top-ten list on why I love the Duggars.

10. They set a great example to us all by living completely debt-free (they did this long before making any money from a TV show)
They leech off other people's generosity.

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9. Even though they seem a little freaky to most of us, and most of us would consider their lives boring, they are truly happy people, so they must have something right.
Ignorance is bliss. Have to keep those kids away from the real world or else they might get a clue about how narrow-minded their world really is. Can't have that brainwashing challenged, now can we?

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8. They are an excellent infomercial for the benefits of homeschooling
7. The kids are well behaved, there are no tantrums or drama, and they all do chores from the time they can walk.
The kids have no childhood. They're forced to raise their siblings because the parents can't do it all.

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6. They are breeding more conservative voters for the next generation!
We don't need any more bigots or religious wackos, thank you very much.

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5. They are extremely religious but the show never gets preachy about religion
4. They clearly have not allowed their fame to change them or their values (unlike some other reality TV families)
3. From the time the kids turn 18 they are expected to be self-supporting; no sponging off mom & dad!
Right. Have to make room for more useless crotch-fruit in the house!
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They leech off other people's generosity.

Ignorance is bliss. Have to keep those kids away from the real world or else they might get a clue about how narrow-minded their world really is. Can't have that brainwashing challenged, now can we?

The kids have no childhood. They're forced to raise their siblings because the parents can't do it all.

We don't need any more bigots or religious wackos, thank you very much.

Right. Have to make room for more useless crotch-fruit in the house!
Tell me, what do you consider "childhood"? Playing video games all day? Having your face glued to a cell phone texting your 13 year-old friends? Having your butt welded to the computer seat while you surf the internet for hours on end?

Call me ignorant, but I'd rather have my kids at home with me, helping care for their siblings, doing chores, helping around the house, cleaning, homeschooling, learning REAL world skills, instead of the things kids these days get themselves in to. Pardon these kids for being RESPONSIBLE and learning valuable skills to help them when they become adults. Since when is caring for a sibling a bad thing? It promotes family closeness. Heaven forbid a family is tight-knit

What this family does is amazing. I'd like to see any of you haters try to raise a large family while living debt-free and contributing to society. Complain all you want. The values these parents teach their kids is something 95% of families (if you could even call them that anymore) have forgotten.
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MAthebanker, you DO realize, don't you, that these folks are millionaires? They are, for all intents and purposes, television stars. They may be close, tight-knit and heart-warming. That's fine. So were the Waltons. But don't confuse the "story" (a very planned, calculated story) with the reality of these peoples' lives. They are in no way the ordinary, traditional family they'd have you believe. They are hauling in money, based solely on the size of their litter. They are a curiosity that a television network is filming, and everybody gets rich selling advertising. They cross-promote like crazy, milking everybody for free vacations, wedding dresses, vans, the list goes on and on.

Once Michelle stops filling the quiver that the "quiverfull" movement promotes, they will not have a story to sell on television. I hope the Duggars are banking some of the cash they get now for the days ahead when the ratings slide and there is no tv show.
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MAthebanker, you DO realize, don't you, that these folks are millionaires? They are, for all intents and purposes, television stars. They may be close, tight-knit and heart-warming. That's fine. So were the Waltons. But don't confuse the "story" (a very planned, calculated story) with the reality of these peoples' lives. They are in no way the ordinary, traditional family they'd have you believe. They are hauling in money, based solely on the size of their litter. They are a curiosity that a television network is filming, and everybody gets rich selling advertising. They cross-promote like crazy, milking everybody for free vacations, wedding dresses, vans, the list goes on and on.

Once Michelle stops filling the quiver that the "quiverfull" movement promotes, they will not have a story to sell on television. I hope the Duggars are banking some of the cash they get now for the days ahead when the ratings slide and there is no tv show.
THEY HAD MONEY BEFORE THE SHOW!!! They rent out several properties, which they make money on. The are DEBT FREE, so yes, they are not like a traditional family. Jim Bob was in the Arkansas state senate before their show. They were doing just fine before their show and will continue to do so afterwards. Stop trying to make them into Jon and Kate.
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THEY HAD MONEY BEFORE THE SHOW!!! They rent out several properties, which they make money on. The are DEBT FREE, so yes, they are not like a traditional family. Jim Bob was in the Arkansas state senate before their show. They were doing just fine before their show and will continue to do so afterwards. Stop trying to make them into Jon and Kate.

Then why the need to mooch for FREE vacations and such? If they were so upstanding and such then they would happily pay their own expenses. When we all know they take these vacations and don't pay for them out of their own pockets. Sure the places they visit hope to gain some exposure out of the "exposure" on tv it still isn't right. The Duggars are taking advantage of the situation. Being that they are able to do all of these things and not have to pay for such a large brood to do it makes a BIG difference in how much money they can sock away vs the average family. The average family of 4 or even 5 can hardly afford a nice weeks long vacation. Therein lies the problem. They are no different than Jon and Kate by accepting the freebies for their large brood for free meals, trips, tours, etc.

The other thing is the cost of education that the NORMAL average household has that they don't. They are not paying for any of the normal expenses that most people do. Again, easy to sock some away when your not paying for that. They are also not paying for ANY college for ANY of the kids. They expect their kids to be self sufficient on their own at 18. That means that none of them will have a lick of any college education. What if one of them wants to be a doctor? A teacher? Too bad, too sad. Does Jim Bob have a college degree? Why would he not want that for his own children? So they are saving all of this money, for what? You can't take it with you and if they are the least bit religious they should know that. It really is sad if you think about it. He was granted a college education but is not even going to be there for his own kids even though he has the financial means to help them get it.
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