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I think Kailyn was disappointed when she told Jo she was married and he did not act jealous
I don't think Kail cared what that monotoned idiot felt or acted like or not.
I think Jo's girlfriend was a little disappointed when he told her that he had no intention to get married or ever have another kid.
Jo is about Jo.
Have you ever seen Jo and Isaac out and about on their own? Nope. Always at mommy's house. Jo just picking Isaac up, or watching him play, nothing else.
An aspiring rapper who "growed" himself up in Bethlehem, Pa, and now lives in Newark, NJ. No one with a brain in their head intentionally moves to Newark.
Get a real job, Jo.
His parents have supported him and he's used the "I have a stable family" against Kail from the get-go because he KNOWS Kail's mother literally gave her away to neighbors while she was out drugging/boozing/sleeping with whatever man would have her.
Stable FAMILY. Meaning mommy and daddy keep a roof over his head, never really questioned him or his uncanny laziness...never gave him a reality check.... and his brother JR lives with his parents too. More like a family that doesn't expect too much from their kids.
I wonder who pays the child support and Jo's rent. I highly doubt Jo does. Does he have a job? Apparently he can't provide his own kid medical benefits, so I'm guessing he does't have much of job.
Kail works, goes to school, NEVER had a boyfriend or NOW husband who tweets pics of him and Kail drinking and partying when Kail has Isaac , not like Vee does.
I wouldn't like Vee either. Kail isn't wrong for worrying about Vee being around her kid.
Why have visitation if you aren't going to spend it with your child? Or act like a parent and stay home? How many other night of the week when you don't have your kid can you go out?
The thing that is going to screw Jo in the long run is when Isaac is not a toddler any longer. Isaac is going to know that his father would rather shove him on his grandparents and go out with his current girlfriend.
Jo is just like Ryan.
Uses his parents to live off of and to babysit when he has visitation with his kid.
These mamma's boys have NO idea what they are in store for when their little ones can put two and two together.
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I'm glad this is the last season for this group. Jenelle especially makes me sick. She lets her druggie then-boyfriend file charges against her Mother and boyfriend for trying to help her. Her Mother who is raising her son. That's gratitude for you! I hope Jenelle gets jail time, maybe that will straighten her out. I just feel sorry for her little boy.
I watched the last 1/2 hour or so of the finale last nite(which I think was a rerun as people seemed to have commented on it) I saw the last few minutes of Janelle and Barbara, and all of Kailyn and jo and Javi.
I was really more turned off than usual with Dr Drew as he was really kissing up to Janelle at least with the part I saw. Did she not have an issue with arrest and heroin and all and she whined that she even set up a room for Jace as though that is the be all and end all for proper parenting. Then she moans about how she cant have her son back, and Barbara repeats that she can on thurs-fri-sat-sun and Janelle moans about that. Really??? I was surprised that Barb says she would let Janelle come near Jace. and Dr Drew was repeating that Barb will let Janelle have Jace those days, repeating and reaffirming it to calm Janelle down.
did I miss something?
And, all along I had been kind of impressed with Kailyn but seeing her snappy and defensive about Vee- beyond any kind of reason or maturity really unfortunately dis-impressed me.
I think she really has a treasure in Javi. That man is a saint.
I watched bits and pieces. Dr. Drew always babies Jenelle. Jenelle only cares about herself and blames everyone else for her actions and problems.
Kail got mad and walked off stage because Dr. Drew wanted her to meet Vee and I guess Kail didn't like some of the things Dr. Drew was saying.
I was mistaken, I guess there is going to be a season 5 of this show. It was mentioned. I will not be watching though.
And, all along I had been kind of impressed with Kailyn but seeing her snappy and defensive about Vee- beyond any kind of reason or maturity really unfortunately dis-impressed me.
I think she really has a treasure in Javi. That man is a saint.
I never liked her to begin with but after watching her act like a huge **** with Dr. Drew I like her even less.
I never liked her to begin with but after watching her act like a huge **** with Dr. Drew I like her even less.
Dr. Drew has babied that drug addict Jenelle since day one (whose mother has taken over raising her child) and Kail (who has no one who will protect her and Jo's parents are all about protecting Jo and themselves...while their boys have rap sheets and mug shots) stands up to him and that's a problem?
I don't think Dr. D watches the show, and if he does, he's should try to stay awake while its on.
If you would like your child's mother/father hook up to tweet pictures of sexual organs and of him/her drunk/high (under-aged) and nary a sentence without profanity in it, then see her youtube channel with her 6 year old nephew where she asks if he likes her cleavage..... and you would NOT have an issue with this person being around your child...you aren't a parent.
Vee has since deleted her twitter account. Her youtube is still around, although it's been on the blogs that she's also deleted anything that could affect her present and future employment.
I see a stripper pole in Vee's future when Jo breaks up with her or TM2 goes away. Wanna be model, living in Newark, NJ...hasn't been discovered yet, getting old for a model, not that bright or that special looking.
And Jo? People don't move to Newark on purpose, unless you're Rappin' Jo Rivera. They move OUT of Newark. Like Jo's parents did.
Kail fights for what she has because she has nothing and no one. The Rivera's were never really behind her. Janet blew a lot of smoke for the sake of the cameras. If Jo's parents had a clue, why are their kids so useless? Both of their sons are losers. Easier to parent someone's else kid? They blamed Kail for everything while their son cheated on her while she was pregnant and Jo was evil to her when Isaac was a newborn.
The Rivera's are no shining stars when it comes to parenting, if they'd like to use their own children as an example of their ability to parent. All they do is protect their own and no matter what. So do feral cats. That's called instinct, not parenting.
Dr. Drew has babied that drug addict Jenelle since day one (whose mother has taken over raising her child) and Kail (who has no one who will protect her and Jo's parents are all about protecting Jo and themselves...while their boys have rap sheets and mug shots) stands up to him and that's a problem?
I don't think Dr. D watches the show, and if he does, he's should try to stay awake while its on.
If you would like your child's mother/father hook up to tweet pictures of sexual organs and of him/her drunk/high (under-aged) and nary a sentence without profanity in it, then see her youtube channel with her 6 year old nephew where she asks if he likes her cleavage..... and you would NOT have an issue with this person being around your child...you aren't a parent.
Vee has since deleted her twitter account. Her youtube is still around, although it's been on the blogs that she's also deleted anything that could affect her present and future employment.
I see a stripper pole in Vee's future when Jo breaks up with her or TM2 goes away. Wanna be model, living in Newark, NJ...hasn't been discovered yet, getting old for a model, not that bright or that special looking.
And Jo? People don't move to Newark on purpose, unless you're Rappin' Jo Rivera. They move OUT of Newark. Like Jo's parents did.
Kail fights for what she has because she has nothing and no one. The Rivera's were never really behind her. Janet blew a lot of smoke for the sake of the cameras. If Jo's parents had a clue, why are their kids so useless? Both of their sons are losers. Easier to parent someone's else kid? They blamed Kail for everything while their son cheated on her while she was pregnant and Jo was evil to her when Isaac was a newborn.
The Rivera's are no shining stars when it comes to parenting, if they'd like to use their own children as an example of their ability to parent. All they do is protect their own and no matter what. So do feral cats. That's called instinct, not parenting.
Struck a nerve I see. All that rambling, and not one statement that really defended Kailyn's actions with Dr. Drew...probably because such defense is near impossible.
Honestly, I don't give a **** if Dr. Drew handles Jenelle with kid gloves, that Jo comes from a stable family while Kailyn's own parents don't even want her, that he wants to be a rapper or that his new girlfriend is significantly hotter than Kailyn. None of that has anything to do with Kailyn acting like such a pompous ***** on the reunion show. And what was Dr. Drew's terrible offense? Trying to get Kailyn to settle down, quit acting like such an irrational *****, and give the woman who will be around her son a chance.
Given that we are talking about the same psycho who cheated on her boyfriend, approached him about getting back together, acted insulted when he wasn't immediately trusting of her, lost her mind when he replaced her with another woman, and then launched into an unprovoked physical assault of her (now) husband over a disagreement about where to put some dogs, I am not at all surprised by her actions.
I thought it would be hard to reach the level of depravity that Amber and Jenelle reached, but Kailyn is making a real strong push for the crown.
Struck a nerve I see. All that rambling, and not one statement that really defended Kailyn's actions with Dr. Drew...probably because such defense is near impossible.
I don't ramble. Try to keep up.
Dr. Drew does not write Kailyn's pay check. Who the hell is he other than a famewhore loser of a "doctor"? If she doesn't like what he is saying or implying, she has every right to snark at him. Do you NOT watch other reunion shows of the reality type? You know, where the participants don't eat up and fall for everything the "moderator" is trying to make them "feel bad" or change their mind, or question them unfairly about? You should...or is because they aren't 20 year olds, they don't have to?
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Honestly, I don't give a **** if Dr. Drew handles Jenelle with kid gloves, that Jo comes from a stable family while Kailyn's own parents don't even want her, that he wants to be a rapper or that his new girlfriend is significantly hotter than Kailyn. None of that has anything to do with Kailyn acting like such a pompous ***** on the reunion show. And what was Dr. Drew's terrible offense? Trying to get Kailyn to settle down, quit acting like such an irrational *****, and give the woman who will be around her son a chance.
Well you should because that is Dr. Drew's way. He completely lets the real issues slip on by and attacks those who have baby-daddy girlfriend issues. Instead of saying to Kail, "hey, Vee is just the first you'll have to deal with, Jo's Isaac's father and there will be plenty of women in and out of Isaac's life because your monotoned useless baby daddy is a loser. Get over it, learn to deal with it." No, he blames Kail for her reaction to all she knows about Vee. And then to ask a 20 year old girl to "ignore" twitter and FB? Who's not living in reality?
Kail is 20 years old. Has not had an easy life, has made some bad decisions, apparently continued to make bad decisions for a while, but she lives on her own, raises her child, stayed in school, isn't a drug addict, has no family of her own to help her out with Isaac like each and every single other one of the girls do, and she has every right to be defensive with big old Dr. NoBody who coddles drug addicts and applauds them for making any choice that a 5 year old would be applauded for.
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Given that we are talking about the same psycho who cheated on her boyfriend, approached him about getting back together, acted insulted when he wasn't immediately trusting of her, lost her mind when he replaced her with another woman, and then launched into an unprovoked physical assault of her (now) husband over a disagreement about where to put some dogs, I am not at all surprised by her actions.
Oh, ok...now she's psycho. She's alone, raising a child and trying to make sense of everything that has been going on in her life.
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I thought it would be hard to reach the level of depravity that Amber and Jenelle reached, but Kailyn is making a real strong push for the crown.
LOL! You're really reaching with that BS. Two drug addicts who couldn't and still can't acknowledge their issues. Amber's in jail for about 5 years. Jenelle is useless. She's a total waste of space and time. By the time Jenelle gets herself together Jace won't want anything to do with her because Jenelle will be coming to him to get her off the streets and in to a nursing home. Foul mouthed loser drug addict mommy.
Absolutely HYSTERICAL that you actually compare two 20 year old drug addicts to a 20 year old raising a child on her own who doesn't like the baby daddies latest girlfriend. And you can't see the difference? HELLLOOOOO? This goes on in COLLEGEs all across the country. Boy breaks up with girl, boy finds new girl, old girl hates on new girl with all of her friends/new girl does the same. Time goes by, it ends.
When you have a baby with someone, you're stuck. And just because you have a baby doesn't mean you grow up in every emotional way and "get it". 20 year olds are NOT 40 year olds. If they were? There would be NO teen mom show.
But at the same time, don't think for one second, that some 40 year old isn't checking out her ex's girlfriend's social media content and would NOT have a problem with seeing said girlfriend posting trashy pictures of herself, using vulgar language, and also posting drunk pics of herself. Knowing this chick would be around her children. Please. If you do...there's a bridge in Brooklyn....
Speaks more about how much you can't stand Kail for whatever non-reason you need to.
Kinda pathetic.
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If she doesn't like what he is saying or implying, she has every right to snark at him. Do you NOT watch other reunion shows of the reality type? You know, where the participants don't eat up and fall for everything the "moderator" is trying to make them "feel bad" or change their mind, or question them unfairly about? You should...or is because they aren't 20 year olds, they don't have to?
Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me that if you disagree with something another person is saying it gives you the right to act like a pompous *****? Well that explains alot. I bet you're a real joy at parties.
I don't know what other reunions have to do with this situation, but ok.
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Well you should because that is Dr. Drew's way. He completely lets the real issues slip on by and attacks those who have baby-daddy girlfriend issues. Instead of saying to Kail, "hey, Vee is just the first you'll have to deal with, Jo's Isaac's father and there will be plenty of women in and out of Isaac's life because your monotoned useless baby daddy is a loser. Get over it, learn to deal with it." No, he blames Kail for her reaction to all she knows about Vee. And then to ask a 20 year old girl to "ignore" twitter and FB? Who's not living in reality?
LOL WUT?!?
Seriously, wasn't there almost half an episode dedicated to Kailyn seeing a picture of Jo and Vee together drinking and the ensuing legal battle to change the custody arrangement because Kailyn got pissed off about it? And you're telling me that Dr. Drew is letting "the real issue slip on by?" H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!
And seriously, the only thing Dr. Drew was trying to do was to get Kailyn to settle down, get to know Vee on a somewhat personal level and possibly make peace. Certainly not an unreasonable goal...unless you're Kailyn, of course.
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Kail is 20 years old. Has not had an easy life, has made some bad decisions, apparently continued to make bad decisions for a while, but she lives on her own, raises her child, stayed in school, isn't a drug addict, has no family of her own to help her out with Isaac like each and every single other one of the girls do, and she has every right to be defensive with big old Dr. NoBody who coddles drug addicts and applauds them for making any choice that a 5 year old would be applauded for.
Speaking of coddling...
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Oh, ok...now she's psycho. She's alone, raising a child and trying to make sense of everything that has been going on in her life.
Answer me this...
Didn't Kailyn cheat on Jordan with Jo?
Didn't Kailyn then approach Jordan about getting back together?
Didn't Kailyn act defensive and insulted when Jordan didn't immediately put his trust in her?
Didn't Kailyn subsequently turn around and tell Jordan she wanted a "break" and they were no longer together?
Didn't Kailyn proceed to have an emotional breakdown when Jordan "moved on" to another girl?
Didn't Kailyn literally turn right around and make insinuations to Jo that she wanted to get back with him?
Didn't Kailyn have another emotional breakdown when Jo basically told her it wasn't happening?
Didn't Kailyn commit assault on Javi over an argument about dogs?
These are not the actions and behaviors of a stable, well adjusted human being.
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LOL! You're really reaching with that BS. Two drug addicts who couldn't and still can't acknowledge their issues. Amber's in jail for about 5 years. Jenelle is useless. She's a total waste of space and time. By the time Jenelle gets herself together Jace won't want anything to do with her because Jenelle will be coming to him to get her off the streets and in to a nursing home. Foul mouthed loser drug addict mommy.
Absolutely HYSTERICAL that you actually compare two 20 year old drug addicts to a 20 year old raising a child on her own who doesn't like the baby daddies latest girlfriend. And you can't see the difference? HELLLOOOOO? This goes on in COLLEGEs all across the country. Boy breaks up with girl, boy finds new girl, old girl hates on new girl with all of her friends/new girl does the same. Time goes by, it ends.
When you have a baby with someone, you're stuck. And just because you have a baby doesn't mean you grow up in every emotional way and "get it". 20 year olds are NOT 40 year olds. If they were? There would be NO teen mom show.
But at the same time, don't think for one second, that some 40 year old isn't checking out her ex's girlfriend's social media content and would NOT have a problem with seeing said girlfriend posting trashy pictures of herself, using vulgar language, and also posting drunk pics of herself. Knowing this chick would be around her children. Please. If you do...there's a bridge in Brooklyn....
Oh, I would definitely put her in the same category. She's got some catching up to do, being a late bloomer and all...though if she commits assault again she might get her very own mug shot.
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Speaks more about how much you can't stand Kail for whatever non-reason you need to.
Kinda pathetic.
Watching Kailyn gives me all the reason I need, same as watching Jenelle gives you reason to not like her.
What I'm more interested in knowing is why you're so invested in defending Kailyn. What's your stake in the game?
Still doesn't write a check to any teen mom. Is also a "joke" among his peers. And anyone else with common sense.
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Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me that if you disagree with something another person is saying it gives you the right to act like a pompous *****? Well that explains alot. I bet you're a real joy at parties.
Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me that if you think a 20 year should act a certain way, and they do not, it gives you the right to hold their feet to the fire and demand they act like they have life experience behind them? I bet you don't have kids. Just a bunch of annoying animals.
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I don't know what other reunions have to do with this situation, but ok.
Yes you do.
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LOL WUT?!?
You're just as immature as the 20 year old your bashing.
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Seriously, wasn't there almost half an episode dedicated to Kailyn seeing a picture of Jo and Vee together drinking and the ensuing legal battle to change the custody arrangement because Kailyn got pissed off about it? And you're telling me that Dr. Drew is letting "the real issue slip on by?" H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!
Was there? Or was it the penis tweets and sex talk and drinking alcohol and pot smoking (don't care how you feel about it, but Vee ain't 21 - not legal to drink - and smoking pot in Jersey isn't legal).
Are you related to Vee or Jo or WTF is so firmly planted up your behind that you can't understand that kids make mistakes and you can't expect an 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 , 23, 24 year old to have their ducks in a row. Even without having a baby. You're lucky 22 year olds get out of bed on time to get to their class....and you have an issue with a teenaged mother who has no support. What planet did you fall off of?
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And seriously, the only thing Dr. Drew was trying to do was to get Kailyn to settle down, get to know Vee on a somewhat personal level and possibly make peace. Certainly not an unreasonable goal...unless you're Kailyn, of course.
And seriously, no he didn't. So the rest is moot.
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Speaking of coddling...
Answer me this...
Didn't Kailyn cheat on Jordan with Jo?
Didn't Kailyn then approach Jordan about getting back together?
Didn't Kailyn act defensive and insulted when Jordan didn't immediately put his trust in her?
Didn't Kailyn subsequently turn around and tell Jordan she wanted a "break" and they were no longer together?
Didn't Kailyn proceed to have an emotional breakdown when Jordan "moved on" to another girl?
Didn't Kailyn literally turn right around and make insinuations to Jo that she wanted to get back with him?
Didn't Kailyn have another emotional breakdown when Jo basically told her it wasn't happening?
Didn't Kailyn commit assault on Javi over an argument about dogs?
These are not the actions and behaviors of a stable, well adjusted human being.
Have you met a teen mom or any 20 year old with a kid and the world on her shoulders who is?
You haven't.
All of your "Didn't Kailyn" BS is just that, BS.
Why do you hate a 20 year old so much?
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Oh, I would definitely put her in the same category. She's got some catching up to do, being a late bloomer and all...though if she commits assault again she might get her very own mug shot.
Watching Kailyn gives me all the reason I need, same as watching Jenelle gives you reason to not like her.
I don't hate Jenelle. She's useless. The hate that the hate-mongering adults (are you an adult?) have for a girl like Kailyn is pathetic. There are NO words for people like you.
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What I'm more interested in knowing is why you're so invested in defending Kailyn. What's your stake in the game?
Did you just skip through your 20's? Never had your heart broken? Never had to help a friend with a broken heart? Never saw or dealt with raw emotions? Never looked back and said, "could have done that differently, wish I did"?
You're that perfect?
What's your deal with taking Kail down? What are you getting out of it? What's YOUR stake in the game?
How OLD are you that you forget what it's like to be a teenager or an early 20-something?
All the Kail haters either forget that they were once young and dumb, or were also knocked up before they wanted to be and had useless baby daddies, just like Kail, BUT didn't have MTV money helping to pay the rent...so the jealousy creeps in.
Which one is your issue?
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