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Old 04-23-2019, 07:20 PM
 
Location: I-35
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Drove on Toll 49 can we add some lanes if i'm going to pay that much to drive from West Tyler to the South, I must admit it was a good route to get to the shopping areas around it.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Actually what you said was this, which includes but is not limited to members of city government:
To someone of limited reading proficiency perhaps. You misread my comment and now are trying to make me hold to the interpretation that you've chosen. I will not. It's clear what I said. You must admit your error or be revealed as someone who won't when they have been clearly found to be in error.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Drove on Toll 49 can we add some lanes if i'm going to pay that much to drive from West Tyler to the South, I must admit it was a good route to get to the shopping areas around it.
We can't do that now. That would detract from the "character" of the city. Tyler doesn't want to grow. They want to stay at around 100,000 tortured souls on this long depressing march into hell. But jails... psssh! They have all kinds of money for jails. Love to put people in prison around here, violate their probations. It's that civic spirit that so enriches the city life here.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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We can't do that now. That would detract from the "character" of the city. Tyler doesn't want to grow. They want to stay at around 100,000 tortured souls on this long depressing march into hell. But jails... psssh! They have all kinds of money for jails. Love to put people in prison around here, violate their probations. It's that civic spirit that so enriches the city life here.
Yes, for absolute certainty, this mayor doesn't not SEEM to want this city to grow, and he is in real estate, go figure? I too, do NOT want it to boom, but some more steady growth, at a higher level than 1,000 a year is necessary to maintain what makes Tyler as great, to me, as it is. City that slow to lower growth, really stagnate to the point of being a city like, I'm sorry, to name a few, Beaumont, Port Arthur, Orange, Wichita Falls, and for me Waco, I know the latter is a favorite of many, but to me, it looks older and not very clean, compared to Tyler, just saying, IMHO.

Oh, come on, I don't think the vast, vast majority of citizens here live as tortured souls. I'm not being "mean" by my comment, but if you live in Tyler, I thought you do, then I would think you could leave, unless there is some real responsibility you have to stay here, life is too short. I think feeling as you seem, I would leave Tyler, IMHI. that all. Tyler, as I've stated many times on here, is certainly NOT for everyone, by a long shot. From time to time over the last 12 years I've been on C.D. I have often suggested to more than a few on here, to move on, they just might be happier somewhere else.

In spite of my often frustrations with this current mayor, and a few council members only, I otherwise really like Tyler, heavy traffic and all.

Tyler has had an outstanding city manager in McDaniels, who help bring Tyler city tax rate down from about .60 per hundred evaluation to a low of .20. He streamlined government, he was responsible for hiring better people. He was so efficient he was selected as the Assistant City Manager by Dallas. That's Tyler to Dallas, in one jump of position, yes Assistant, the "only" Assistant in Dallas. As you know, sometime assistants perform the majority of work, no not always. Also, McDaniels was in the final four, for THE City Manager of Fort Worth, they did not chose any of the four and started over. So no, Tyler is not really poorly run, IMHI, at city hall, but the current mayor is a poor choice. The listed huge mistake or problem is not the only one by far, that I have with his decisions made, maybe the biggest mistake in judgement though.

Yes, after 3 to 5 failed elections to build a larger jail, a more ugly, smaller jail was built, to match, not really as ugly as the Smith County jail, the ugliest county jail in Texas, by far. The art deco, eye sore they built around 1955. You see, I see clearly, and often state on C.D. some of the reasons Tyler is not Utopia, I've always seen and known much of what you speak of, and still to me, for it's size it is the best place in Texas, for all the many things I personally enjoy.

I now have no immediate family here, distant family in DFW, I don't want to live in a MEGA metro of just under 8 million, DFW had in the July 1, 2018 census estimates just released last week. The area has grown over 1 million since 2010. Nope, loved Houston the 26 years I lived there, but not at this stage of my live. I enjoyed DFW this last weekend, beautiful time to have been there to enjoy the last year of Globe Life Park, The Zoo, Japanese Gardens, but, then LEAVE the traffic mess and come to the city I enjoy more, Tyler.

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Old 04-23-2019, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Look I’m not just down on Tyler to be down on it. I feel like the other view needs representation. I’ve always been blown away by the people who make Tyler out to be Shangri-La, like they wouldn’t even trade their little spot here to live on a wing of Buckingham Palace or Neuschwanstein Castle. Fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think it is so overblown. Therefore in direct proportion to which people build it up, I will put it down, even if in fairness, I am going to an extreme. It’s about balance. I want both sides represented. I also don’t want someone to stake their future by moving here based off of what some city employee in the parks department says about it because I can almost guarantee they will come to regret it, either to a greater or lesser degree.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Whitehouse, TX
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To some extent, life is what you make of it. We moved here from California. I expected a change, I was looking for a change, and a change is what I got. Is it all sunshine and roses? No, of course not. And if anyone is expecting to trade one piece of dirt for another and get all of their dreams fulfilled, that is just unrealistic. If that is how a person is thinking, then what people are saying on C.D. is the least of their issues.

Our society has shifted. It used to be "life is what we make it", and now it seems to be more of "what will be made of my life", a shift of responsibility from myself to everyone else. I don't think that is helping our society at all overall.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Look I’m not just down on Tyler to be down on it. I feel like the other view needs representation. I’ve always been blown away by the people who make Tyler out to be Shangri-La, like they wouldn’t even trade their little spot here to live on a wing of Buckingham Palace or Neuschwanstein Castle. Fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think it is so overblown. Therefore in direct proportion to which people build it up, I will put it down, even if in fairness, I am going to an extreme. It’s about balance. I want both sides represented. I also don’t want someone to stake their future by moving here based off of what some city employee in the parks department says about it because I can almost guarantee they will come to regret it, either to a greater or lesser degree.

Just for the record, I've been to both Buckingham Palace and Neuschwanstein and I really wouldn't want to live in either one. Seems like quite the hassle overall. Nice places to visit though.

People need to do their homework before moving ANY place. If anyone moved to this area based on one or two peoples' comments on an anonymous internet forum, I figure they must be a goober.

By the way, an aside note - I actively HATED living here the first year or so that I lived here. It was culture shock. And every morning, you know what came on TV first thing? THE LIVESTOCK REPORT. What the heck. I felt like I was in some sort of alternative universe or something. About a year later, I realized that, OK, I didn't actively hate it here. And then one day about two years into things, I realized that I love Texas and I really like where I live.

The Tyler area really fits my husband and me, but of course it isn't a fit for every one, or every family, or every situation. For instance, my oldest son lives in Guam, which just seems awful to me but he loves it there. Last time he came home, my husband and I were talking about needing to put some pre emergent fertilizer out before it rained, and my son said, "Oh my gosh. This conversation sounds like hell on earth to me." He wants to go to the beach every day. He'd rather do that than lay in a hammock in a green backyard. To each his own - it's a big world out there! I'm glad he's happy and he's glad I'm happy.

I don't pay much attention to city government personalities or bureaucrats. I figure that in any city there's some mismanagement and corruption, so for the most part barring some lawsuit or scandal, I just roll with it as long as things are working out well enough, though I was vocal regarding the name change that was considered for REL High School. I pick my battles.

Different people have their different interests and my interests are basically volunteering by teaching life skill classes, feathering our nest so that my husband and I enjoy every minute of our time together at home, planning our next vacation, and keeping our lawn green. That leaves me very little time to try to track every tax dollar, and get this - I don't even know what the new jail looks like. Of course, I don't live in Smith County either so it's less interesting to me than if I did. Oh wait, I also don't know what the Henderson County jail looks like. Sorry - I guess I just don't care.
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:31 AM
 
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Poor rich people, have it so bad here. Now they will have to live next to a bunch of poor people and watch their property values go down. I almost feel a bit bad for them. Oh wait, no I don’t.
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