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Old 06-19-2013, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I would expect that given enough time, the world would be mocha and this discussion would end...
I often hear people say this, but I don't believe it.

Most countries are simply not seeing a massive number of immigrants. The few that are seeing large immigration waves, much is from neighboring countries. Sometimes neighboring countries tend to have quite distinct looking majorities from the country they are migrating to, but more often than not the differences are minimal (cultural differences tend to be much greater, though).

Also, people of different races are not really mixing in most countries. Outside Latin America, the majority of the population of any given country are quite homogenous and they are not homogenous in the "mixed race majority" sense. The lack of mixing is mostly due to lack of opportunities for mixing to take place.

People often notice how demographics are changing in certain regions of the USA and in Europe, and assume that's what's going on all over the world. The reality is quite different. Most countries are not like the USA, Spain, France or Britain; but more like Haiti, China, Japan, and India. In other words, another century will pass and the population of most countries will look if not the same then quite similar to what they look like right now.

 
Old 06-19-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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People often notice how demographics are changing in certain regions of the USA and in Europe, and assume that's what's going on all over the world. The reality is quite different. Most countries are not like the USA, Spain, France or Britain; but more like Haiti, China, Japan, and India. In other words, another century will pass and the population of most countries will look if not the same then quite similar to what they look like right now.
For the most part I do agree with you. My mocha example is idealistic. Human nature is today, what's it's been for a millennia and it will take another for real progress. A hundred years is nothing in human social development but one has to admit in the last one hundred years great gains have been made.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 03:57 AM
 
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I'm from the island of PR, and we have all being taught that we are a even blend of black, white and indigenous. However, in the past three years I've been doing extensive research about my ancestry. I was very shocked to found out about my results, because I would had never thought that my ancestry was completely European.

On my mom's side of the family, it's Italian, Dutch, Catalan, Irish, and Welsh; they changed their names when came to PR in the mid 1800's to sound more local.

On my dad's side, is Basque, Galician, and Scottish; they arrived in the early to mid 1800's. His dad's side is from PR, but his mother is a Mexican from New Mexico (my grandma is not one of those "brown" Mexicans).
Few people, if anyone, of Puerto Rican ancestry is a perfect tri-racial blend. That concept is way too simple for the new world.

Most Puerto Ricans are predominantly European ancestry with various mixtures.

Puerto Rico was and still is a melting pot. Spaniards, Lebanese, Chinese, West Africans, Italians, Greeks, French, Irish, Maltese, Germans, Moroccans, are only a sample of the populations represented.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Regular Americans are not considered the most enlightened people on this planet, just look at who they wanted as vice president, Sarah Palin! George Bush wasn't a rocket scientist either. As White Americans feel they're becoming a minority , surrounded by a sea of non-whites, they are going to get more irrational about who is white and who isn't, so GET READY!.

We might also think this is a passing phase but no group who's been in powder for centuries has ever given up power to people whom they consider inferior.

That's the rush to keep Blacks from voting, making it more difficult. Hispanics aren't too far behind.

Statehood for Puerto Rico? Not in our life time!
 
Old 08-23-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Regular Americans are not considered the most enlightened people on this planet, just look at who they wanted as vice president, Sarah Palin! George Bush wasn't a rocket scientist either. As White Americans feel they're becoming a minority , surrounded by a sea of non-whites, they are going to get more irrational about who is white and who isn't, so GET READY!.

We might also think this is a passing phase but no group who's been in powder for centuries has ever given up power to people whom they consider inferior.

That's the rush to keep Blacks from voting, making it more difficult. Hispanics aren't too far behind.

Statehood for Puerto Rico? Not in our life time!
You vote for the Pava right?

I am as conservative Republican Anglo Whitey as it gets and I don't care about language or skin color. I care about values and beliefs.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Puerto Rico was and still is a melting pot. Spaniards, Lebanese, Chinese, West Africans, Italians, Greeks, French, Irish, Maltese, Germans, Moroccans, are only a sample of the populations represented.
You left out the second most important group: The Corsicans. There is even an entire town full of Corsican descent people.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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You vote for the Pava right?

I am as conservative Republican Anglo Whitey as it gets and I don't care about language or skin color. I care about values and beliefs.
Good for you WIHS however you don't live in a vacuum. I too don't care about language or skin color but that's very simplistic. Its not what you as an individual cares about on your own, its what your right wing party believes, and as of today, 2013, the GOP is far from what your feelings are.

You might be very sincere, like Oreo cookies are, but they aren't accepted no matter how hard they try. They could bang their heads on a concrete wall a hundred times but ...........nobody notices. If Marco Rubio is a whitey like you, then why did a liberal like Chris Matthews refer to him as non-white? Where does that leave you with the rabid conservatives of the GOP? I bet your conservatism is more like European Conservatism, which to almost any body in the GOP today is Communism.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Scranton
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That's the rush to keep Blacks from voting, making it more difficult. Hispanics aren't too far behind.
How are they keeping blacks from voting? The only thing that they're trying to pass is voter ID. You know, like Puerto Rico has had for the last 30 years. Actually, not as strict as PR's. Here in Pennsylvania they passed a law allowing you to present ANY government issued ID to vote, unlike PR where you need a special ID from the Elections Commission. Still, the Democrats keep implying that Hispanics and blacks are too stupid to get an ID. Now, that's insulting.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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That's cool but I know what Puerto Rico is. It's a triracial predominantly European country.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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That's cool but I know what Puerto Rico is. It's a triracial predominantly European TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES
FTFY.
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