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View Poll Results: What will puerto rico's status be?
Statehood 15 51.72%
Status quo (commonwealth) 9 31.03%
Ela soberano (like Palau, it would be an independant country, but allied with the usa) 3 10.34%
Independance 2 6.90%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-30-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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there is no golden rule or a law that language is mandatory either.......all Puerto Rico has to accept is that the state government will be run bilingual which all government documents would be in both languages which is the case already in P.R. and many states including the federal government.

This has to do about nothing.
Yeah, but will Spanish ALWAYS be the main language of when, lets say, the Puerto Rico senate meets?

What about education?
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Old 08-30-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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what about education? that will be decided in the private schools like they already do now and in the public schools that will be decided by the counties like they do here in the states.


See under statehood, public education will not be centralized like they do in Puerto Rico, it will be control at the local level by counties like in the states and each county will decide what kind of education they want to have apart from the mandatory basic classes that are requirements anyway. Meaning the locals and parents will have direct control of their children's education and control the local taxes and property tax to pay for it.

Under statehood if the county of San Juan wants full bilingual education that's their business and their right and their tax dollars. It will be control by the counties.....Parents will also have the options of charter schools and private schools.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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what about education? that will be decided in the private schools like they already do now and in the public schools that will be decided by the counties like they do here in the states.


See under statehood, public education will not be centralized like they do in Puerto Rico, it will be control at the local level by counties like in the states and each county will decide what kind of education they want to have apart from the mandatory basic classes that are requirements anyway. Meaning the locals and parents will have direct control of their children's education and control the local taxes and property tax to pay for it.

Under statehood if the county of San Juan wants full bilingual education that's their business and their right and their tax dollars. It will be control by the counties.....Parents will also have the options of charter schools and private schools.
Source? I thought pr had school districts.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:52 PM
 
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Source? I thought pr had school districts.

source? I have lived in 5 states in 42 years and Puerto Rico. The Public Education in P.R. is centralized and is controlled from the capital in Hato Rey (San Juan) and its way political. Its one size fits all for all the towns and cities in the island, that's why its nearly impossible for reforms and change at the local level and add to that the teachers union which make any changes impossible and hard to fire bad teachers and bad administrators.

In the U.S. for the most part the public education system is controlled at the county level or districts. That means under statehood, Ponce would have its own district than San Juan, Bayamon, Fajardo, San German, Caguas and so on which gives power and control at the local levels for better results and better accountability.

if you have been a student in the public school system in P.R. and then had the privilege to go to the states you would see the difference how its run for the most part.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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source? I have lived in 5 states in 42 years and Puerto Rico. The Public Education in P.R. is centralized and is controlled from the capital in Hato Rey (San Juan) and its way political. Its one size fits all for all the towns and cities in the island, that's why its nearly impossible for reforms and change at the local level and add to that the teachers union which make any changes impossible and hard to fire bad teachers and bad administrators.

In the U.S. for the most part the public education system is controlled at the county level or districts. That means under statehood, Ponce would have its own district than San Juan, Bayamon, Fajardo, San German, Caguas and so on which gives power and control at the local levels for better results and better accountability.

if you have been a student in the public school system in P.R. and then had the privilege to go to the states you would see the difference how its run for the most part.
So San Juan could teach more bilingually than, say, caguas?

And will the Bilingual generation program happen? if it does, will Puerto Rico become english dominant?

http://www.caliricans.com/2012/08/en...-rico-schools/

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...on-in-english/

http://www.caribbeanbusinesspr.com/p...d=7494&ct_id=0

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Old 08-30-2013, 10:52 PM
 
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depends on the demands of each town and city and how much more they want to invest in their district with property and local taxes......maybe the residents of San Juan would want to pay more property and local taxes to have a education system or athletic program a little different than Ponce based on their demands and wishes......that's how they do it in the states.........that's local control. They still have to fulfill federal and state basic requirements but they have more control to do other things for their district.


that's how they do it in my state and district.......they have French, Italian and Japanese classes in some high schools in our district plus other courses and a very solid sport programs from soccer, baseball, basektball, to football and the list is long that all comes from local taxes and local control.

try doing that for the public school system in P.R., IMPOSSIBLE.....is too centralized and too political and the funds always gets lost in the central offices and nobody knows nothing.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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Alaska does not have counties so it is not a requirement for statehood.

There have however been attempts at merging municipalities to create counties but it has never gotten off the discussion board at government meetings.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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Only 48 states use the term counties. Alaska is divided into 19 organized boroughs and one unorganized borough. A Borough means: a self governing community, a borough is a unit of the local government below the level of state. In Alaska a Borough is a approximately a county-equivalent.


Louisiana calls it Parishes because of their long tradition of being a French & Spanish colony with heavy Catholic Church influence, they have 64 Parishes in their state................. different names but works like counties, meaning a self governing community that have direct control of their public education and other matters in their community.

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Old 08-31-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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Only 48 states use the term counties. Alaska is divided into 19 organized boroughs and one unorganized borough. A Borough means: a self governing community, a borough is a unit of the local government below the level of state. In Alaska a Borough is a approximately a county-equivalent.


Louisiana calls it Parishes because of their long tradition of being a French & Spanish colony with heavy Catholic Church influence, they have 64 Parishes in their state................. different names but works like counties, meaning a self governing community that have direct control of their public education and other matters in their community.
So you don't think the bilingual generation program will happen?
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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yes, they are already doing it in a lot of school districts in states where latinos are the minorities, why wouldn't it happen in Puerto Rico where they are the majority. There is no federal law that states it can't be done.
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