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Old 01-25-2015, 03:13 AM
 
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.... but Obama has been to 57 states, with three more to go.
So the president does know how many states this nation has
Too bad!
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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1. DC is all in MD. All the land that VA donated to DC was returned to VA during the civil war.
2. If Miami wants to be a separate state, they can perfectly do it constitutionally, provided that the FL legislature and Congress approves.

pretty much NO!!! Florida legislature will not vote to lose power representation in congress by giving it to a new state or lose the state sovereignty over Miami and congress will not approve it because they don't want to set a precedent so other cities form their own state and get 2 Senators each and house seats.

That's why it has NEVER happen in the history of the U.S.



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WRONG!! Puerto Ricans are US citizens by virtue of the Jones Act of 1917. There's a reason why Puerto Ricans did not have US citizenship prior to 1917, even though the 14th Amendment had been in effect for decades prior. And it is the same reason why the people from American Samoa are not US citizens today.


DUH!!! all acts are declarations of congress....they don't fall out of the sky. Once U.S. Congress declares residents of Puerto Rico U.S. citizens the 14th amendment applies. Congress has to declare it by an act. Just like making a real estate a U.S. territory or making a U.S. territory into a U.S. state, congress has to vote in an act, it doesn't fall out of the sky. The U.S. Constitution gives the power to congress to declare such acts.

When the Mormons pioneers moved to the desert in the west of what we know today the state of Utah, congress declared that desert a U.S. territory by an ORGANIC ACT and most of the land in the west congress did the same thing.



Puerto Rico didn't have U.S. citizenship prior to 1917 because Puerto Rico wasn't an ORGANIZE U.S. TERRITORY and congress prior to 1917 didn't make any act giving residents of P.R. U.S. citizenship, it was a military occupation since 1898 from the American/Spanish war. Congress first passed The Foraker Act or Organic Act of 1900, established civilian government in Puerto Rico. Then in 1917 Congress passed the Jones Act making all residents in Puerto Rico U.S. citizens then from 1917 to present, congress has passed laws and acts to apply the whole U.S. Constitution (except those reserved to States) to Puerto Rico.



American Samoa are U.S. Nationals and not U.S. Citizens because Congress hasn't declared an ACT to make them U.S. citizens and apply the 14th amendment ......Puerto Ricans were U.S. Nationals from 1898 to 1917.

All U.S. Citizens are U.S. Nationals but not all U.S. Nationals are U.S. Citizens.


Definition of U.S. Nationals:

A U.S. National is a person born in or having ties with outlying possession of the United States. As of now only American Samoa Swain Islands apply.

Restrictions:
U.S. Nationals cannot vote in any election or hold elected office in the U.S.

Rights:
Allowed to work and reside anywhere in the U.S. without restrictions.
Eligible to apply for a U.S. Passport just like any U.S. Citizen. There is no difference between a passport for U.S. Nationals and U.S. Citizens. Both of them mentions the nationality- U.S.A.!
Eligible to apply for U.S. citizenship through naturalization under the same rules as permanent residents.





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Old 01-25-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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by the way, the Constitution gives Congress the right to declare any rock on earth or the moon that is NOT a sovereign nation a U.S. TERRITORY by just declaring an Organic ACT and giving their residents U.S. citizenship (under the same act or a different act) and apply the U.S. Constitution to that territory (except those reserved only to the states) .....only congress can do it by an Act.


or declaring it an occupation U.S. Nationals like American Samoan...which is the same rights as U.S. Citizens for the exception they can't vote or hold public office while living in the states.

55% of the U.S. electorate don't vote and 95% of U.S. Citizens could care less about running for public office.


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