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Old 01-25-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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It's better than living in a Kissimmee motel--doing nothing for three months, as Hellion said--hoping for more government aid so you don't end up on the street. And it's cheaper to live in South Dakota anyway. Since they are American they don't have to worry about ICE.
You're suggesting people that just came off a TROPICAL and SUNNY Caribbean island to move to South Dakota? And you want them to move now, in the middle of winter?

Ooook... That's going to be a very successful scheme. Yep!

I can guarantee you that the typical Puerto Rican that moved to Orlando after Maria has complained at least once about the 'cold winter' there. Where the sunshine strong, the days are still bright, most of the trees are green, and it warms up in the middle of the day and afternoon. This complaint is a given. Now you want to take those people from Orlando and shove them where? South Dakota? Are you serious? lol
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Old 01-25-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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My wife is in PR right now with her elderly parents. She just text me, no electricity, no internet, and the refrigerator doesn't work. Looked solar large panels to send them, the problem is the delivery. We got them solar chargers for their phones. One thing about Puerto Rico, has a strong sense of family. People there are banding together to rebuild what they had.


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that I agree 100%. They have a strong sense of family, community, and neighbors help each other out. It's in our DNA and culture. You see it more in the countryside.


Our Grandparents in P.R. ( R.I.P.) went through this and worse. San Felipe Hurricane in 1928 and then they had to deal with the Great Depression, back to back (talk about bad luck) and then many had to leave their families and fight WW 2 and they handled it as people and raised families and future generations with little technology and none of the aid or help we have today. They did what had to be done to survive and rebuild. They were from a different generation and didn't have the "entitlement" mentality or the "ay bendito" that we have now. Back then it didn't exist. You either move and do what you had to do and everybody had responsibilities or die. Nobody was going to pay for your whole family plane ticket and put you in a hotel with room service for 3 months in the states back then.

That's why many call it the greatest generation and I agree.


I used to hear stories from my grandparents and other people from that generation how they lived and how things were and the things they did to survive when I was a kid and I thought they were exaggerating until you grow up and do your own research and find out it was true and then some.


I'm a firm believer in the old saying: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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You're suggesting people that just came off a TROPICAL and SUNNY Caribbean island to move to South Dakota? And you want them to move now, in the middle of winter?

Ooook... That's going to be a very successful scheme. Yep!

I can guarantee you that the typical Puerto Rican that moved to Orlando after Maria has complained at least once about the 'cold winter' there. Where the sunshine strong, the days are still bright, most of the trees are green, and it warms up in the middle of the day and afternoon. This complaint is a given. Now you want to take those people from Orlando and shove them where? South Dakota? Are you serious? lol
Able bodied people living on welfare in Florida, in a motel or on street just because they won't put put up with some cold weather in a place where they could have a job and future?

Completely pathetic, if true.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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Millions of Puerto Ricans live in very cold winter cities from New York City, Detroit, Jersey City, Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Salt Lake City and in the mid-west.......they are fine. They all adapted to the weather.

My Grandfather went from Puerto Rico to Alaska for 6 months when he served in the Army and he survived, actually he loved it, LMAO!!!
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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This sounds like one of those farm operations where Midwest land owners overlook illegal migrant workers papers when hiring, but when one of them gets their hand cut off or claims a work related medical disability, ICE comes knocking on their door the next day. Why would an American citizen want to work for these kind of people?
THANK YOU, michikawa!
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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3 months in a hotel with room service is enough time. If FEMA says you can return to Puerto Rico because your area is good then you have to go back or find a job in Florida. They extended to March 20 for some and it's on a case by case basis........if FEMA doesn't do that a lot of people will abuse the system and will stay for a year at the hotels.

If you have disabled children, you get priority just about for anything from the federal and state government.
Hellion 1999: If you read the article, you will see that we are talking here about DISABLED CHILDREN, that agencies had to intervene on their behalf.
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Hellion 1999: If you read the article, you will see that we are talking here about DISABLED CHILDREN, that agencies had to intervene on their behalf.
That's not what the article said. One woman had a disabled child in the article. Just saying.
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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They need to go to places wherever there are jobs and affordable place to live. Not all try to come to the same small area in Florida.
Especially if you have no relatives, friends or support in Florida.
They come to Florida and specifically, Miami-Dade, Orlando, and Tampa because there is a large concentration of Puerto Ricans, THAT NOT ONLY SPEAK SPANISH, BUT ALSO ENGLISH. Therefore, they can feel more at home, and get help from their own peers.

Last year, I came to Orlando for the winter, from NEW YORK CITY, and have been a SNOWBIRD FOR A MYRIAD of years, all over Florida, Arizona, and California. There was large construction of stores, homes, and corporation buildings. then. I am here right now. The construction has doubled, there is a multitude of overhead highways, being built, like California. ORLANDO has DISNEY, and this is the end result of having DISNEY on their side, plus they are pushing for AMAZON CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS to move here, since they have left Silicone Valley. I am urging all the Puerto Ricans in need of jobs and housing. that speak both languages to come this way. There are lots, and lots of opportunities, and if you are EDUCATED, it will be an excellent source for employment to get ahead. Maybe that is the reason why the HURRICANE VICTIMS have been moved here......to give them a starting chance. I am sick and tired of hearing comments about Puerto Ricans, from people that do not know what they are talking about, and are simply looking for a way out to attack them. The end of WESTSIDE STORY. people, has been over for many years! We have gotten ahead up the ladder, we have EDUCATED ourselves, and are trying to do the same for the present generation. We are little by little taking over the MEDIA, thanks to the image of GERALDO RIVERA, who for many years, has been a good proponent that if we work hard, we can make it.

And do you realize, MissLoudmouth, that there is tremendous racism in many different states toward any person that speaks SPANISH. We, Puerto Ricans, who are BONA-FIDE AMERICAN CITIZENS, are being treated in many states as ILLEGAL ALIENS. I have travelled about 45 states out of the 50, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, three times. I was born in Puerto Rico, and have a slightly-accented-speech, therefore, the moment they hear my accent, I become an Illegal Alien, and people treated me differently.......although not without a fight.

In Fallbrook, California, I was run out -of -the- highway two different times, after stopping at a 7-11 by members of the ARYAN NATION, whose father lived there......now he lives in Sandpoint, Idaho, however, his son still lives in Fallbrook, because they spotted my accent. Do you think being Hispanic/Spanish/Latina, is easy? You tell me, Missloudmoth.
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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Last year, I came to Orlando for the winter, from NEW YORK CITY, and have been a SNOWBIRD FOR A MYRIAD of years, all over Florida, Arizona, and California. There was large construction of stores, homes, and corporation buildings. then. I am here right now. The construction has doubled, there is a multitude of overhead highways, being built, like California. ORLANDO has DISNEY, and this is the end result of having DISNEY on their side, plus they are pushing for AMAZON CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS to move here, since they have left Silicone Valley. I am urging all the Puerto Ricans in need of jobs and housing. that speak both languages to come this way. There are lots, and lots of opportunities, and if you are EDUCATED, it will be an excellent source for employment to get ahead. Maybe that is the reason why the HURRICANE VICTIMS have been moved here......to give them a starting chance.
You are the one who has what you're talking about. Florida is not full of great high paying jobs for the educated. Disney jobs are known for low pay.

And living in a Kissimmee Super 8 motel until you run out of money is not a way to better your life.

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Old 01-25-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Hellion 1999: If you read the article, you will see that we are talking here about DISABLED CHILDREN, that agencies had to intervene on their behalf.


I actually read the article....but I don't have all of her information because I'm not her caseworker and the reporter never bothered to interview her caseworker to get any details about her case. All this is 1 sided and incomplete.


The article says: "Two and a half months after fleeing their home in Puerto Rico, Maria Baez Claudio was told she and her 5-year-old grandson had to leave the Super 8 motel in Kissimmee because their federal housing assistance was running out.“We have nowhere to go,” said Baez, 53, who had been living in a public-housing complex in San Juan before coming to Orlando. “We have no family here. We have no financial options to move anywhere. We are practically on the streets.”
Baez has benefited from FEMA’s Transitional Shelter Assistance — a hotel voucher program for families displaced by Hurricane Maria — along with her grandson, Christian, who has severe brain damage that affects his abilities to speak and walk."


“I filled out the application, but they said that San Juan was supposedly habitable, even if San Juan is still not powered at 100 percent. It’s at about 50 percent, and the power comes and goes. And that’s one of the reasons I didn’t qualify [for the extension],” Baez said.


Baez, a nurse practitioner, became unemployed on the island after the few patients she tended to moved away. She is relying on food stamps to survive as she cares for Christian.



Facts on the story so far:
1) She is a professional nurse that was living in Public Housing in Puerto Rico before the hurricane.

2) She gets food stamps......she is a nurse living in housing and getting food stamps doing the job that the parents of the 5 year old refused to do and the taxpayers have to pay the bill.

3) Her 5-year-old grandson, Christian, has severe brain damage that affects his abilities to speak and walk.

my questions that reporter never bothers to ask or find out in the story:


1) Where are the parents of this child that the grandmother has to take care of a 5-year-old by herself and be all alone in Florida? Are the parents alive (father and mother )? are they paying her child support for this child? if not, why not? if they are sending Grandma money, how much?.

2) if this child is disabled by law. To what degree? If a child is disabled they get Disability benefits and other federal help. Again, since we don't have her file we don't know her history and details. A caseworker would know.

3) She is a professional nurse, has she apply to work while in Florida? Nurses get paid good wages in any state. I'm going by the story here.

4) How much she has in her bank account and her assets.......that's why you need to speak to her caseworker for this story because they have access to all of that.

5) Can she go back to the public housing in Puerto Rico the one she was living in? if not, why not? details would be nice.

6) is she getting any kind of help from family members? if not, why not? and if she is, how much?

Sorry if I don't get outraged by an incomplete 1 sided news story that the reporter is too lazy to get all the facts to help her properly. I'm the kind of person that likes to get all the information needed to know all facts before I form an opinion and give my advice.

if you have a disabled 5-year-old and are low income, you get a lot more than just housing and food stamps......I have a friend who is a single mother with a down syndrome son and she gets lots of benefits from the feds and state and they get special education paid by the feds and free babysitting while you work.

Whenever anybody brings me a case like this about welfare and federal aid, I usually tell them to get all the details because each case is different that caseworkers have to go by federal guidelines and by the book when giving money and benefits away.

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