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Old 02-06-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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Puerto Rico is the largest modern example of Stockholm syndrome. They are a nation of people under colonial rule for over a hundred years who have grown attached to and dependent on their colonial rulers and do not want to be free and independent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5P31d-oAZQ&t=24s

Puerto Rico's relationship with the United States is in many respects comparable to American slavery because Puerto Rico belongs to the United States. It's not part of, but rather, the property of the U.S, and it's under complete U.S control. Like Puerto Ricans today, many U.S slaves did not want to be free, grew attached to their owners, and thought it was their place to be a slave. They had the same worries that Puerto Ricans have, such as "What are we going to do?", "How are going to take care of ourselves", "We're going to starve".

Should those slaves not have been emancipated just because they didn't want to be - just because they had grown complacent and comfortable with their condition? No, because slavery was morally wrong. In the same respect, colonialism is wrong and it should be abolished, irrespective of whether the colonial subjects want to be independent or not.

When an abducted child is discovered after years of being held captive, they are emancipated. No one asks the child if they want to be or not. That doesn't matter because child abduction is wrong. They may not want to be, but their opinion is irrelevant because they have been brainwashed. In the same respect the Puerto Rican plebiscites are only testament to the depth of their delusion/conditioning and should not be taken seriously. The right thing to do is make them independent.

It's is ridiculous that in 2018, the United States still has colonies. We need to brake away from our colonial past and help all those nations become free independent nations. The people who do not want independence, have sadly succumbed to Stockholm syndrome (a mental sickness), and so don't know what's best for themselves.

Statehood is not the answer. That's a step beyond colonialism. They would cease to be a distinct people, and their problems would worsen. It's better for both Puerto Rico and the United States that we end our colonial relationship. This has dragged on for 100 years with no resolution. We need to just end it now.

The independistas are the only Puerto Ricans left who are aware of this, are proud of who they are, and haven't succumbed to colonial stockholm syndrome.

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Old 02-08-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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^^^^^who wrote this garbage? you?


So what this is saying is Puerto Ricans are NOT compatible with statehood and the U.S. system because it's in our DNA. 6 million Puerto Ricans living in the 50 states right now are in limbo, our DNA rejects the U.S. Constitution and civil liberties. Funny, the U.S. Constitution doesn't mention race or culture. English as the "official" language is not even mentioned in the Constitution.

330 million U.S. Residents living in the U.S. of all races and cultures but Puerto Ricans is the ONLY group in the world that is not compatible with the U.S. and the Constitution.....LOL

then it gets more ignorant comparing Puerto Ricans to slavery and an abducted child.....you forgot to compare us to an abusive wife..........this is the victimhood culture propaganda in P.R., basically they are telling you: "your life sucks and the Americans are to blame and we are the solution" (no details, no guarantees)


Like I said, most of the racist and ignorant things towards Puerto Rico comes from the Independentistas and Anti-Americans in the island. I lived there for years and you wouldn't believe the things they say to mentally shame and put down anybody that is not Anti-American and is not an independentista. It's a victimhood culture mentally.

We do have a political culture problem in Puerto Rico but by no means, We are not victims. Puerto Ricans have a complacent culture and they rather stay with the DEVIL they know than take chances with the Devil they don't know and that Devil that we don't know has a lot of characteristics of things going on in other Latin Republics that we don't want.


The U.S. protects civil liberties, individual rights and property rights that the left independentistas in P.R. will never protect once they have full power and control in P.R., that's why Puerto Ricans reject independence.


The U.S. Constitution recognizes states and territories, all under the protection of the U.S. Constitution and bill of rights. I rather live in a state than a territory but a territory is a lot better than a Banana Republic run by the socialists in the independent movement in Puerto Rico.

why do you think they don't give you details about what system Puerto Rico is going to have under independence? Why don't they write a Puerto Rican constitution under Independence so they can show the people what rights are they going to protect, you know like a contract, so people can see and decide? Because most of us know what they are all about....if you have property in Puerto Rico, either business or land, kiss that goodbye. Independentistas are not going to protect property rights under a Republic. Their socialist model of government is Cuba and Venezuela and they call it social "justice" or for the "good" of the people.


Sorry, Amigo, the U.S. is not perfect but I will take their system and protections over whatever socialist experiment you independentistas have for Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a lot of problems to solve but going to a full Banana Socialist Republic with you clowns in charge taking things that don't belong to you is going from bad to GUATAPEOR (really bad)
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:46 PM
 
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^^^^^who wrote this garbage? you?





Sorry, Amigo, the U.S. is not perfect but I will take their system and protections over whatever socialist experiment you independentistas have for Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a lot of problems to solve but going to a full Banana Socialist Republic with you clowns in charge taking things that don't belong to you is going from bad to GUATAPEOR (really bad)


(I was wondering how long it was going to take you to rip this person a new azzhole.)
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:06 PM
 
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(I was wondering how long it was going to take you to rip this person a new azzhole.)
I'd have done so earlier myself but I don't want to give him attention. The OP is a bigoted ignoramus that regularly posts insulting comments about Puerto Ricans and non-Whites in general.
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Old 02-08-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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I'd have done so earlier myself but I don't want to give him attention. The OP is a bigoted ignoramus that regularly posts insulting comments about Puerto Ricans and non-Whites in general.
I kind of got that impression..there was another one with the same 'loud mouth' ..nothing but insults about PR.
Hasn't posted since Feb 3.. he/she might be on a 'Club Mod' vacation
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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the myth that Puerto Ricans are not compatible with the U.S. Constitution and the American way of government is nonsense. We have more Puerto Ricans living in the 50 states than in the island and most of them are not coming back and are doing fine. Working and paying taxes.


It's the same myth and scare tactic they use in the island that if P.R. is a state, people will lose their culture, language and 500 years of heritage. P.R. has been under the U.S. Flag for 120 years and nobody was forced to lose anything unless they choose to personally.

There is NO federal law that tells you what language you can speak and what specific culture you need to have. No federal cops will come down your house and slap you if you continue with the Puerto Rican culture.

What it comes down to is, what system you want to live under? you want a system that gives you property rights and civil liberties and nobody can violate it regardless who is in power in Puerto Rico, then the U.S. is a good system to be under.......nobody is going to confiscate your property and money or business without due process under the U.S. system.

Again, I can't say that if you have these socialist independentistas in power under a Banana Republic. The first thing they will do is to confiscate land, homes, businesses, resources, and revenues and call it for the "good" of the people. If you think things are bad now, wait until the Feds leave the island and these people are fully in charge and have all the power and control with no federal oversight.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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I kind of got that impression..there was another one with the same 'loud mouth' ..nothing but insults about PR.
Hasn't posted since Feb 3.. he/she might be on a 'Club Mod' vacation
Yeah no. Nice try maggy, but I just things to do besides listen to you. Not everyone lives on here all the time time.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Thumbs down Down With The Independence Movement

starting by getting rid of the Major of San Juan, and her thinly-veiled Independence love, for Puerto Rico.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:33 PM
 
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starting by getting rid of the Major of San Juan, and her thinly-veiled Independence love, for Puerto Rico.

She has to be honest with the residents of San Juan and explain why if she is for independence she is in the party of pro commonwealth?

That’s like Ruben Berrios being in the statehood party just to be in power but many figured her out a while back, she is in politics for herself above all and be in power.


Everything she has done since the hurricane is politically calculated for her to run for governor for 2024 and be a rock star in the Democrat party in the U.S.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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the myth that Puerto Ricans are not compatible with the U.S. Constitution and the American way of government is nonsense. We have more Puerto Ricans living in the 50 states than in the island and most of them are not coming back and are doing fine. Working and paying taxes.


It's the same myth and scare tactic they use in the island that if P.R. is a state, people will lose their culture, language and 500 years of heritage. P.R. has been under the U.S. Flag for 120 years and nobody was forced to lose anything unless they choose to personally.

There is NO federal law that tells you what language you can speak and what specific culture you need to have. No federal cops will come down your house and slap you if you continue with the Puerto Rican culture.

What it comes down to is, what system you want to live under? you want a system that gives you property rights and civil liberties and nobody can violate it regardless who is in power in Puerto Rico, then the U.S. is a good system to be under.......nobody is going to confiscate your property and money or business without due process under the U.S. system.

Again, I can't say that if you have these socialist independentistas in power under a Banana Republic. The first thing they will do is to confiscate land, homes, businesses, resources, and revenues and call it for the "good" of the people. If you think things are bad now, wait until the Feds leave the island and these people are fully in charge and have all the power and control with no federal oversight.
Agree with Hellion.
February 8, 2018
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