U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Easter!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
 [Register]
U.S. Territories Puerto Rico, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, etc.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
 
Old 07-02-2009, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Centro Tejas
543 posts, read 839,096 times
Reputation: 361

Advertisements

Remember that many Spanish conquerors had some Middle Eastern blood since Muslim invaded Spain thousands of years ago.

I'm Puerto Rican, and I look very Mediterranean; I'm very tall, but I have pale skin, dark eyes and hair, and my facial features are very Mediterranean, not Latin American.
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-15-2009, 04:32 PM
ncc
 
95 posts, read 263,618 times
Reputation: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuenoQueHacemohAhora View Post
Well, if you know that the Arabs dominated Iberia for 300 years, this should not come as a surprise to you.

I do not know it for a fact, but I have always been convinced that my ancestry is of Arabic origin, probably through Spain. Even though all my immediate, back to my grand, grand parents where born in Puerto Rico.

Just as an exercise, watch any video taken in the streets of Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, heck pick almost any middle eastern country, but mute the sound. Then ignore the local indicators, and just look at the faces. When I do that, I find myself thinking "that could easily be a Rio Piedras street scene"
The Moors or Arabs dominated Spain for almost 800 years. Before the Arabs, the Romans ruled.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 04:42 PM
ncc
 
95 posts, read 263,618 times
Reputation: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuenoQueHacemohAhora View Post
The native Taino Indians would look a lot more closer to South American or North American Indians. There is not much there to look Arab, but maybe darker skin.
The Tainos were originally from the amazon. How much of a presence do tainos have on the island?? I know that the island was originally theirs, but since many died from disease, suicide, and murder, how many actually survived, and to what extent?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 06:28 PM
 
228 posts, read 658,772 times
Reputation: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by ncc View Post
The Tainos were originally from the amazon. How much of a presence do tainos have on the island?? I know that the island was originally theirs, but since many died from disease, suicide, and murder, how many actually survived, and to what extent?
Originally the story was that there was not much left of them, but more recent DNA testing has shown that there is some Taino representation in today's "average" Puertorican. However, it would be alot easier to find today a person in Puerto Rico that looks close its african ancestors, or its Spanish ancestors than to their Taino ancestry.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-18-2009, 02:34 PM
 
74 posts, read 256,697 times
Reputation: 82
Tainos are part of the main Arawak Native Branch. In PR. over 60% have some Taino. They were not wipedout but absorbed. This goes for the other main Caribbean islands.

Quote:
Arawak today contains 31 tribes. The theory goes that they crossed over from Asia down North America down to Central America where some tribes settled. Then others kept going to South America and scattered all over the continent down to Northern Argentina, parts of Paraguay and Brazil. Then some tribes heading North again via Brazils Amazon and reached Trinidad and then started island hopping until they got to Southern Florida.

In Paraguay one Arawak branch meet up with the Guarani who subjugated the Arawak who lived in parts of SE Bolivia. Arawak were famous for being mostly docile. Guarani were more warlike. They then together formed a new group called Tupi-Guarani. Story goes the Tupi then went to Brazil and got it from the Portuguese. While the Guarani stayed in Paraguay and parts of Bolivia.

As for the language, Arawak family of language is spoken from Belize in Central America to Northern Argentina in South America. But many of the languages of the Arawak family have gone extinct. Guana spoken in Paraguay went extinct in 2006. Today many of there words are still in use, they have been absorbed into the languages spoken in many of the Caribbean islands. This includes the food and some of there ways of doing things.
Edit: In Bolivian culture you can sometimes see a similarity with PR. mountain culture. Some people think the way these Bolivian sing is very similar to the way some sing mountain music in PR. Remember, Arawak made it to Bolivia and from there some went into the Amazon and North. Some reached the Caribbean in time.

Bolivian Video:

Last edited by Ounce; 09-18-2009 at 02:58 PM..
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-31-2009, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Centro Tejas
543 posts, read 839,096 times
Reputation: 361
800 years Muslim invasion in old Spain.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-31-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Centro Tejas
543 posts, read 839,096 times
Reputation: 361
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuenoQueHacemohAhora View Post

Just as an exercise, watch any video taken in the streets of Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, heck pick almost any middle eastern country, but mute the sound. Then ignore the local indicators, and just look at the faces. When I do that, I find myself thinking "that could easily be a Rio Piedras street scene"

That's so true!!!!!!!!

When I used to had long hair, and I wore it curly, many people thought I was from that region: Middle East!
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-31-2009, 06:42 PM
 
2,562 posts, read 3,083,225 times
Reputation: 3720
Quote:
Originally Posted by jay_jay26 View Post
Remember that many Spanish conquerors had some Middle Eastern blood since Muslim invaded Spain thousands of years ago.

I'm Puerto Rican, and I look very Mediterranean; I'm very tall, but I have pale skin, dark eyes and hair, and my facial features are very Mediterranean, not Latin American.
Coņo nena!!! Eso hay que verlo pa' creerlo!!! How's about posting a picture!!!
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-31-2009, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Centro Tejas
543 posts, read 839,096 times
Reputation: 361
Quote:
Originally Posted by chacho_keva View Post
Coņo nena!!! Eso hay que verlo pa' creerlo!!! How's about posting a picture!!!
Estoy en el ejercito, asi que estoy usando mi uniforme, tres veces mas grande que yo (el que me dieron en boot camp).

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs027.snc3/11444_192774781801_704006801_3901745_8328745_n.jpg (broken link)
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2009, 12:35 PM
 
1 posts, read 4,653 times
Reputation: 17
Many immigrants to the Americas and specially Latin America came from Spain. Lots of these people had Arabic lineage. what many people don't realize that the Arabs occupied Spain and Portugal for more than 500 years during this time there was mixing of races and many of the Spaniards and some Latinos today are 100% pure Arabs by genes because when the Spaniards took over Spain form the Arabs again, they forced many to convert to Catholicism and banned Arabic and Muslim religion from practice. In fact some of the early explorers with Christopher Columbus were 100% Arab. The role of the Arabs and Muslims in the western world has intentionally been ignored due to the ideological and religious animosity between the two worlds! Many of the discoveries in fields like Medicine, astronomy, physics, Math and philosophy were never accredited to its original Arab scientist due to this animosity and in fear of Islamic or middle-eastern influence which apparently seems to prevail after all!!!!
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:
Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

Š 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top