Is Puerto Rico expecting Venezuelan immigrants? (credit, houses, private schools)

[Linetta]

Is Puerto Rico ready for new immigrants from Venezuela now that Chavez has taken over, even the private schools there? I surely expect people to start leaving Venezuela now that Chavez can start brainwashing their children. I figure some of those people will probably wish to go to the United States, but will want to be able to speak and/or study in their native tongue. Which is why I believe many will immigrate to Puerto Rico. What do YOU think?

[MKE-Ed]

I have heard that some are indeed starting to leave Venezuela. The ones that have already left are moving to south Florida. These are the people that are very well off and know what Hugo is about and fear losing it all if they stay there. They fear that what will happen to them is the same thing that Fidel Castro did when he came to power.

[Trucker7]

If they decide to immigrate to PR, that will probably be a good thing. Most of those leaving the Chavez regime will be educated, middle and upper class professionals and their families. We could use some of them in Puerto Rico. As a matter of fact, PR should be encouraging them to move there.

[NooYowkur81]

Originally Posted by Linetta

Is Puerto Rico ready for new immigrants from Venezuela now that Chavez has taken over, even the private schools there? I surely expect people to start leaving Venezuela now that Chavez can start brainwashing their children. I figure some of those people will probably wish to go to the United States, but will want to be able to speak and/or study in their native tongue. Which is why I believe many will immigrate to Puerto Rico. What do YOU think?

More likely the bulk will go to Florida. There simply isn't enough space or work in PR.

[Amazonas]

As someone here said before, most Venezuelans that had the means to move out of the country already took that step. This happened sometime before the big referendum that took place about three years ago. On the other hand, getting a U.S. visa, even as tourists, is somewhat complicated. Therefore, most people have opted to go to Spain. I must say that, if given the chance most Venezuelans would move to South Florida which is where they have created a small community. Also, most Venezuelans I know have moved to Western Canada since they have an increadible amount of experience in the oil industry.

[Ounce]

I do know when Venezuela became independent in the 19 century that many Venezuelan who were loyal to the Spanish Crown ended up in Cuba and PR. which could have affected local politics. Could also explain why the Spaniards were able to hold on longer to Cuba and PR..

As for the Venezuelans leaving Venezuela chances are the they will head to europe since in Puerto Rico there are not enough jobs for the people already here especially with the island government firing government workers. Some here even have to migrate to other places.

[InNeedOfAnswers]

How long will Venezuela be this way? Chavez is not forever.

[Ounce]

This short post ended up long.


InNeedOfAnswers said above:

How long will Venezuela be this way? Chavez is not forever.

What way. Venezuela has always been this way. Seems alot of people need to read on the history of Venezuela.

One thing Venezuela has had alot of is Military Generals and or corrupt politicians over the decades running Venezuela. The Generals were usually via military coups.

Chavez, at least won by elections, but he had tried to coup the Venezuelan of Carlos Perez government in Feb, 1992. He was caught but later pardon.

Some years before Chavez became President there was former Venezuelan President Carlos Perez who been Venezuelas President more than once. He always won by elections. He was a politician not military. But he did do the following:

Carlos Andr̩s P̩rez became president in 1989 on a platform of anti-neoliberalism, describing International Monetary Fund (IMF) structural adjustment recipes as "la-bomba-sola-mata-gente" Рthe bomb that only kills people. However, shortly after attaining office, P̩rez, "faced with a severe crisis of international reserves, fiscal as well as trade and balance-of-payment deficits, and an external debt ($34 billion) that under these conditions could not be paid," signed a letter of intent with the International Monetary Fund stipulating that he carry out a neoliberal adjustment program that entailed privatisation, deregulation, and the dismantling of social welfare programs and subsidies.The agreement was not submitted to parliamentary consultation and was made public only after having been signed. On 25 February 1989, the government announced an increase in gasoline prices, and two days later a public transit price rise precipitated a series of mass demonstrations and riots in Caracas and Venezuelas other principal cities. P̩rez suspended civil rights and imposed martial law. The military's suppression of the rebellion resulted in, by the government's own admission, 300 deaths; and others estimate the toll at more than 1000.
Pérez survived another coup attempt in November 1992, but was impeached by Congress in 1993 for illegaly using $17 million to finance the campaign of Violetta Chamorro in Nicaragua and his own inauguration fiesta

Strange thing is

Carlos Andrés Pérez maintained a high profile in international affairs. In 1980, he was elected president of the Latin American Association of Human Rights.

Time to go back to 1953. There we have a Military Junta appointing General Marc Pérez Jiménez has President. He was politically right leaning. He many times use to wear a military uniform while President. He was forced out in Jan. 1958 during General Uprising of the population. While in power the General changed the name of Venezuela from "The United States of Venezuela" to the "Republic of Venezuela". He also had a secret police making sure the people behaved. He built a bridge across lake Maracaibo since he wanted to make sure Zulia State in the West did not go there own way. Zulia state is very independent and where Venezuelas oil is located. Zulians have always believed the Central Government in Caracas is wasting there oil money and giving little back.

Watch this short video. It is the starting credits of a Soap Opera made in the 80's in Venezuela about Marcos Pérez Jiménez dictatorship. It shows what happened to those against him. The New Years party you see is when he was overthrown. Near the end they show real historical film parts of him and the real General Uprising which toppled him.


YouTube - Novela Estefania Entrada

Now lets see what Chavez has in common with Carlos Perez and Marcos Pérez Jiménez. He seems to have much more in common with Jiménez up to a certain point.
Chavez is also military and but politically left leaning. He also became President but by democratic election unlike Marcos Pérez Jiménez. But some say he does have a type of secret police to quiet the people who really are against him. He sometimes wears a uniform has President. Last one to do this was Marcos Pérez Jiménez. He changed the name of Venezuela from the "Republic of Venezuela" to the "Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela". He was almost couped in 2002.

Chavez has had alot of problems with Zulia State. He was going to Federalize Zulias ports and take them over. And like Marcos Pérez Jiménez and Carlos Perez some say he has attained personnel wealth. Marcos Pérez Jiménez supposedly became a multi millonaire while President.

So Venezuela has mostly been like this. And it seems the more things change in Venezuela the more they stay the same.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by InNeedOfAnswers

How long will Venezuela be this way? Chavez is not forever.

What do you mean with this way?

You mean "this way"?
(Low cost houses that the venezuelan goverment builds and sells to people)


YouTube - Obras del gobierno revolucionario de Venezuela





I don't think that those people want to go back to the way the Venezuelan government used to build houses for the poor.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by Ounce

Watch this short video. It is the starting credits of a Soap Opera made in the 80's in Venezuela about Marcos Pérez Jiménez dictatorship. It shows what happened to those against him. The New Years party you see is when he was overthrown. Near the end they show real historical film parts of him and the real General Uprising which toppled him.

Nobody ever mentions the good things that the dictator Perez Jimenez did in the few years he was in power.



YouTube - Venezuela en 1952