latest on unemployment extension bill (receive, work, money, UI)

[OHGreat]

Originally Posted by shutz1012

Did you see the contents of this bill???? It's huge!!!!! For them to just pull out 2 things out of the TONS that are in there is CRAZY.

Wouldn't be crazy at all they pulled out the Home credit and passed it.

[Opyelie]

Originally Posted by shamrox311

So to get back on track, is HR 4213 whittled down now to where it's only about UI extensions or not? If not, then what legislation was it that the Senate had a movement for cloture on that Collins and Snowe both voted "yay" for, before the July 4th break?

No it isn't - some things have been taken out (the home tax credit and the doc fix got passed alone for two) but it's still NOT a stand alone UE bill

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by jznomoney

What's Been Happening With the Unemployment Extension Bill? - Blog - OpenCongress

The blog you quoted seems to suggest they will work on the standalone HR 5618 on the 20th....thanks for noting!

[Opyelie]

Originally Posted by OHGreat

Diorgirl herself said it was broken out and into 2. The question is still what did Snowe and Collins vote for in that broken out bill?
I also find it funny that no one is allowed to question diorgirl on this forum.

THINGS have constantly been dumped from bill HR 4213 in an effort to whittle it down to a $$ sum they think the naysayers can stomach enough to pass the whole thing INCLUDING the much needed UE extensions........

What Snowe and Collins voted on was cloture (ie - LIMITING further debate on the bill before taking it to a final vote) on HR 4213.

EOS

[OHGreat]

Originally Posted by Opyelie

THINGS have constantly been dumped from bill HR 4213 in an effort to whittle it down to a $$ sum they think the naysayers can stomach enough to pass the whole thing INCLUDING the much needed UE extensions........

What Snowe and Collins voted on was cloture (ie - LIMITING further debate on the bill before taking it to a final vote) on HR 4213.

EOS

Yes I know it was for cloture, that's a given, the bill was fully paid for minus the Unemployment for a while now, Snowe and Collins still voted nay on that bill. Now all of a sudden they voted yay for it. There is more to it then end of story. I want to know what they voted on exactly as it wasn't just because of deficit spending as they now support it with UI not being paid for.

[odessit771]

Hello!
I am sorry I did not have a chance to go through all 79 pages of this forum. If someone could explain to me the following, I would greatly appreciate it!

If bill gets 60 votes on Tuesday, will it be signed into law by president the same day? What needs to be done after it gets 60 votes for it to become a law? What are the possible scenarios of passing this bill on Tuesday?

[shutz1012]

Senate Calendar

Here's the calendar up thru July 20th...and HR 4213 is on the calendar, nothing else.

[diorgirl]

Originally Posted by odessit771

Hello!
I am sorry I did not have a chance to go through all 79 pages of this forum. If someone could explain to me the following, I would greatly appreciate it!

If bill gets 60 votes on Tuesday, will it be signed into law by president the same day? What needs to be done after it gets 60 votes for it to become a law? What are the possible scenarios of passing this bill on Tuesday?

(1)The vote on Tuesday is a procedural vote for cloture. That means the bill cannot be debated for more than 30 hours before the final vote is taken. 60 votes are required to invoke cloture.

(2) If cloture is invoked, at the end of the cloture deadline (about 30 hours -- or sooner if Reid can get agreement to move head on the final vote sooner) the final vote is taken. 60 votes are required to pass a bill in cloture.

(3) If the Senate passes the bill, it is returned to the House for another vote. Since the Senate amended the version of HR 4213 that it received from the House, the House must approve the changes made by the Senate.

(4) If the House approves HR 4213 with no further changes/amendments, the bill goes to the President for his signature -- which enacts the bill into law.

[odessit771]

Originally Posted by diorgirl

(1)The vote on Tuesday is a procedural vote for cloture. That means the bill cannot be debated for more than 30 hours before the final vote is taken. 60 votes are required to invoke cloture.

(2) If cloture is invoked, at the end of the cloture deadline (about 30 hours -- or sooner if Reid can get agreement to move head on the final vote sooner) the final vote is taken. 60 votes are required to pass a bill in cloture.

(3) If the Senate passes the bill, it is returned to the House for another vote. Since the Senate amended the version of HR 4213 that it received from the House, the House must approve the changes made by the Senate.

(4) If the House approves HR 4213 with no further changes/amendments, the bill goes to the President for his signature -- which enacts the bill into law.

So, when would we possibly know about the bill being signed into law (if everything goes as planned)?

Thanks!

[odessit771]

Would it be Wednesday?