Unemployment chat (appeals, number, California, Nevada)

[AliveandWell]

One thing that I'd like to mention in regards to unemployment is that I just feel that it has become such a negative thing in our society. It is so negative that people don't look favorably upon those of us who are without jobs. Especially I've heard that employers won't hire the unemployed. One of the guys I used to work with at my last job told me that I'm not unemployed, just in between jobs. That's a good way to think about the situation. I am sure there are those people out there who think like this too.

I like to look at the situation like this: when you are without work, you still have a job. And that job is to find work. I know that you don't get paid for looking for work but shouldn't that be considered a job too? I'm getting really tired of people looking at those of us who are without jobs as unemployed. Yes, in the traditional sense the ones looking for a job are unemployed. But isn't it all about perception and or a state of mind? I mean think of the junior high or high school students who are in school. Aren't they supposed to be looked at as unemployed too? If people are going to consider us job seekers as unemployed, then shouldn't we include children too? These are some thoughts that I'd like others to consider. It is definitely a much different and I would say BETTER way to think than most people do. It is more positive to think that you always have a job even when you are looking for one. Even an unpaid internship with a company should be counted as a job IMO.

Is anyone else tired of hearing the word unemployed?

[Gerrygal]

Originally Posted by ReturningWest

While some of the suggestions are as good as it gets in this economy don't fool yourself into thinking it's getting better with the "if only I'd...".

The economy is still in the toilet, in my state of GA our UI rate jumped from 9.7 to 9.8 and now 10.1. So much for all those seasonal jobs. I drove through Winder the other day and most of downtown is boarded up, my little town is going that direction. Athens, GA a college town is now also starting to see shop closings. Even the chicken processing plants are having layoffs.

Some parts of the country "might" be recovering but not here, I'd love to escape, I've got my property listed at well below market value and no takers and with out it's sale I have zero money to move.

I live in a rural area of GA, too, where the UI rate is chronically above 11 percent. Moving is not an option for me, either. There is no industry here, and employers in neighboring counties simply are not hiring...and REGARDLESS of one's skills and experience. That fact seems to escape those who look at us as if we crawled out from underneath a rock.

And, speaking of shop closings, I just read yesterday that a regional mall near where I live and used to shop at closed its doors last month, something I thought would never happen.

Welcome to "Third World America", indeed.

[marymercerus]

I just won an umemployment appeal and I am wondering if anyone knows how long it should be before I start receiving my money? I called and asked and they didn't really give a definite answer. They said around the end of December. If any of you have won an appeal recently, how long did it take before you starting receiving your money? I asked that I receive my money direct deposit when I filled out the original umemployment benefits application. Will that speed it up any that I did that? I just hope my money arrives before all my bills are due. I would hate for anything to be cut off (like electricity) or for us to get a 3 day notice, for the rent being late.

[wannabee]

Location. Location. Location.
All kidding aside, I would imagine some states are quicker than others. Please post your state and someone with first-hand experience may see it and respond. Congratulations on winning your appeal!

[roncorey1]

Laid off in July '08. Drew umemployment til Jan. '09 when I took a job with a pharma giant here in Durham, NC.
Hated it.
Seriously.
After a week I knew it was not for me so I quit after only 3 weeks and and a day. I had (what I thought) a pending job offer from another company. It never materialized. The position got put on hold. So I couldn't go back on the unemployment rolls again because I quit.
Stupid?
Of course.
Would I do it again?
No.
Have I got ANY help from the government since then?
NO.

[maryland2011]

Anyone ever heard of this -- my brother is about to start Tier I all over again!! He has exhausted all four Federal Tiers and now NJ says he has an older claim from 2008 that was never exhausted. They sent him a small check that was still owed on that claim and are now starting him all over again on Tier I and are not moving him to NJ EB as would normally occur. He has called them 3 times and they say this is correct. Anyone have ANY ideas as to how this could happen?

[Ariadne22]

Originally Posted by maryland2011

Anyone ever heard of this -- my brother is about to start Tier I all over again!! He has exhausted all four Federal Tiers and now NJ says he has an older claim from 2008 that was never exhausted. They sent him a small check that was still owed on that claim and are now starting him all over again on Tier I and are not moving him to NJ EB as would normally occur. He has called them 3 times and they say this is correct. Anyone have ANY ideas as to how this could happen?

Happens all the time. Interesting that they have exhausted a later claim before going back to the earlier claim. Usually, claims are exhausted in this order:

Claim 1 - State Benefits
Claim 1 - Tiers until 2nd claim established
Claim 2 - State Benefits
Claim 1 - Tiers until exhausted
Claim 1 - EB - not available b/c of 2nd claim
Claim 2 - Tiers
Claim 2 - EB

- but exhausting the 2nd claim before going back to the first is probably a state procedural thing in NJ. Now, NJ may be handling EB differently. Let us know when your the time comes if NJ is paying EB on the first claim or if, when the time comes, they put him on EB from the 2nd. Usually establishment of a 2nd claim, voids the ability to collect EB on the first claim.

Another question, however. Did your brother ever claim anything on Tier 1 from the 2008 claim? I doubt he is beginning Tier 1 from the first claim from the first dollar. Chances are he has a small balance remaining from one of the tiers on that first claim, and they are continuing that claim until it is exhausted.

If you can get his claim history, it would be helpful.

[911ramones]

very interesting,Would you know if you are claiming (currently) Tier 1. This is following State 26 weeks regular unemployment,laid-off Feb 21st 2010. I have a 2,100 balance in Tier 1. When it becomes time to begin Tier 2, do they also put a dollar amount in that Tier (2) or is the dollar amount in EUC that was submitted the full amount you can draw under all Tiers. I live in Montana and UE rate is 7.3% and should go up with holiday staffing trimmed.Thanks Charlie

[wannabee]

Originally Posted by 911ramones

very interesting,Would you know if you are claiming (currently) Tier 1. This is following State 26 weeks regular unemployment,laid-off Feb 21st 2010. I have a 2,100 balance in Tier 1. When it becomes time to begin Tier 2, do they also put a dollar amount in that Tier (2) or is the dollar amount in EUC that was submitted the full amount you can draw under all Tiers. I live in Montana and UE rate is 7.3% and should go up with holiday staffing trimmed.Thanks Charlie

You receive the same weekly benefit amount in all of the federal Tiers that you received under state unemployment. You will know at the beginning of each Tier what the full balance of the Tier will be and the amount of weeks.

[Time and Space]

Originally Posted by las vegas drunk

I just found this article. It is heartbreaking. The article is mostly about the unemployed so hopefully it is ok.

Tent Cities, Homelessness And Soul-Crushing Despair: The Legacy Of Decades Of Government Debt And Mismanagement Of The Economy

I knew of a tent city once, located in Gainesville, FL, of all places...

It was a quiet, hidden community of homeless people living just off the edge of the University...

The people who stayed there were very quite, clean and organized...
Kind of a self imposed community diciplinary code...

Looking back, one of the reasons I suppose they were so quiet and orderly, is cause they probablly knew they were 'being watched'...and that the city was just looking for the slightest excuse to shut the place down...

I spoke with a few members of this 'camp'...and many were doing just fine, economically...and even had good jobs...

Once reduced to 'nothing' the process of rebuilding begins...and along the way, many in the camp really learned to streamline their lives, from material possesions to how they defined success.

The fella I was speaking with loved it there...why?
Cause he had a good or decent paying job...no rent, or other associated bills...so basically all he had to do was save up money...

And without all the bills and material mindset, stacking cash becomes a lot easier...and with that in mind, many were living there, in that 'state' with a aim and purpose of rising up and out, after they fixed their lives...

Some camp city residents were of the perminant homeless class, and others were just 'temp' dwellers...

But the odd thing is is there was like a silent, street code of conduct...
'Respect those around you and there stuff'

If that code of conduct was violated, one would probablly be expelled from the group...trust was a big thing...cause many left for work and couldn't afford to come back and have their stuff gone.

There was less crime there than in sorounding neighborhoods...I always thought it was a neat arraingement, tucked so quietly away in the woods there...

No litter or trash or slightest trace of it's location...infact the only way I knew it was there is cause I kept seeing decently dressed people walking in and out of this path that lead into a shallow forest...

And again...that was by design...for trash, litter, drunks, trouble makers, all of that would of given the city an excuse to shut the place down...

Sadly though, shortly before I left that area, I remember reading in the paper how some in the city council had stepped up efforts to shut the place down...they just had to make up some reason...but I think do to the college town enviornment...(It's where Tim Tebow went to school) I think some student activist stepped up and got the city to back down...

They were like :

'who are they hurting?'
'They can't afford rent'
'Many have jobs, but if they had to pay rent and associated bills, it would wipe out their income and keep them in a state of poverty'...

'Many wouldn't qualify to sign a lease anyhow do to bad credit and or no leasing history or past convictions'

I suppose they made these and other arguements...

But now they were standing on their own...bothering no one, and living, and or prospering, in their own little wooded community.

Those earning money didn't have to give it away to everything as soon as they got paid...
(sometimes the system is what's responsible for creating poverty above and beyond anything else)

For although they lived in various types of tents...they really weren't 'poor'...they were happy, content, and free...and not bound or burdened by the usual trappings most of us fall into.

Anyways, just a true life observation I wanted to share about a real life tent city.

(also, I realize like cities and towns, every tent city has it's own 'flavor', and or probablly ran differently with different leadership structures, if any.
I'm not saying all of them are blissful quaint Pappa smurf villages of peace and harmony...cause their not, but this one kind of happend to be)...





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