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Unread 01-09-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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I won't say there are plenty of jobs (especially since I don't know what the situation is where you life) but I do see a fair amount of people who are so picky about what the job is that they are overlooking some possibly workable positions.

Flexibility is key in a situation where jobs are not plentiful.

It sure didn't take long to see a post like this full of the usual talking points... "people being picky" and "people need to be flexible".

Is every person expected to become so flexible that everyone settles for being a wage slave at the local Mickey D's or Walmart? Or even in their dream job making pennies on the dollar?

Sure, all of these seem like "workable" situations. But it is this notion that perpetuates and reinforces the race to the bottom.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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That sweeping generalization is both rude an disrespectful to the families of our military personnel. You have no freaking clue what they have to go though. Think before you type!
There has been at least a dozen threads on CD related specifically to militray, vetereans and employment. Everyone of them dissintigrated into a "you hate Vets" or "you have no idea what your talking about so shut up" when evr anyone attempts to discuss this issue in real life terms. I'll just add you comment to the list of those bla bla bla comments.

And as an FYI, I have a whole lot of clues and first hand expereinces what military and veterans are going through so you may want to temper your rightious attitude with a bit of humility.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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Actually, taking any open job would INCREASE WAGES. Pickiness decreases wages, as it maintains the sky high ratio of about 5 unemployed per available opening. Historically, 2-3 per opening is healthy, <2 bad market for corps, >3 bad market for workers.

The bottleneck of too many available will not change w/o less pickiness.

The enemy of the unemployed person is his/her fellow unemployed person.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:00 PM
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Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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I won't say there are plenty of jobs (especially since I don't know what the situation is where you life) but I do see a fair amount of people who are so picky about what the job is that they are overlooking some possibly workable positions.

Flexibility is key in a situation where jobs are not plentiful.
Yes, flexibility is key but it is not always the job seeker that needs to be flexible. Requiring a college degree for $10/hr is very common where I live in the sticks then they want experience too. It is ridiculous what these companies expect their applicants to sink to these days. I won't do it, not for $10/hr. If you want a college grad you must pay for a portion of that education.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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It sure didn't take long to see a post like this full of the usual talking points... "people being picky" and "people need to be flexible".

Is every person expected to become so flexible that everyone settles for being a wage slave at the local Mickey D's or Walmart? Or even in their dream job making pennies on the dollar?

Sure, all of these seem like "workable" situations. But it is this notion that perpetuates and reinforces the race to the bottom.
and what many fail to realize is that although there may be lots of job openings and some are well below the standard in education or expereince a candidate has, these places are so reluctant to hire those over qualified that you can have 200 vacant cashier positions and 200 people apply but if their education and expereince is to great, they are not going to get the job! How many times have we read about Joe college graduate who worked 5 years in business management but they can;t even get an interview to work the counters at McDonalds. Or Jane with 15 years as the corporte receptionist but can't get a job standing at the door and say "Welcome to WalMart". People, don;t fool yourself into thinking that Jack-in-the-Box will hire you if you meet or exceed all their qualifications, The biggest bugga-boo with hiring today is if you will stay doing that low level job or leave when something better comes along.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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PacificFlights, the overqualified would get hired more for lower level jobs if they wanted them. When one submits a resume with an MBA and 15 years of corp heavy-duty experience shown on it to Wal Mart, they don't want the job.If one is willing to downsize in a bad economy, one uses multiple means of applying, and does not show a long-term progression of duties many levels past the spot they wish to get.

Would all get hired? No, but guess what happens to corp salaries when 5 available per spot becomes 4!
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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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This post has nothing to do with military. It is simply about the "haves" who have no idea how hard it is for the "have nots". Nothing more. If anything, I was more aghast that the statement came from a stay at home wife who has not had to worry about a thing for over 15 years, which was when she last worked. If hubby-dearest walked out the door, she would get a reality crash PDQ.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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What is the point in doing that? Why do companies post jobs that they have no intention of filling? I know they do, I just don't see why. Also, these jobs that are "continuously taking applications" but have not actually hired anyone in ages. Why do they bother?
To see what type of talent is out there just in case someone quits or gets fired
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Unread 01-09-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: texas
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Come to Texas, more like west Texas....there are plenty of oil and gas jobs out here. The company I work for, has class after class of new hires (15 to 25 at a time) week in and week out.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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This post has nothing to do with military. It is simply about the "haves" who have no idea how hard it is for the "have nots". Nothing more. PDQ.
Most of the haves used to be have nots. They know how hard it is and didn't care for it. That is why they became the haves and today they sit around the fire talking about the old days when they didn't have a pot to **** in.
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