When will your state cut off extended benefits? (trigger, number, training)
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I have a question as to how the look back is applied in NC. I see on the BLS report today that in NC we had a preliminary UR of 10.2 for Jan. First question does NC use 110 or 120%? Second question is when calculating the numbers do they use the three month average from 3 years ago - Nov '08, Dec 08 and Jan 09? Or is it simply Jan 09 multiplied by 110% (or 120)
I have a question as to how the look back is applied in NC. I see on the BLS report today that in NC we had a preliminary UR of 10.2 for Jan. First question does NC use 110 or 120%?
Not 100% sure, but as I read this, 120% is used if UE rate is 5%. Since NC's rate is much higher, it uses 110%.
Second question is when calculating the numbers do they use the three month average from 3 years ago - Nov '08, Dec 08 and Jan 09? Or is it simply Jan 09 multiplied by 110% (or 120)
Three-month average from three years ago.
Three-month average in May 2009 was 10.4%. 110% of that is 11.44%. NC's three-month UE rate needs to rise to at least 11.44% for it not to trigger off as projected in May.
Assuming EB is in effect, I know NELP projection says it will not be, but assuming EB is in effect after I exhaust tier 3 on the week ending June 30th, what does the EB rate have to be for me to continue to collect EB?
If I'm doing the math correctly, three-month UE rate in NJ needs to be at least 110% of the rate shown in this report - or 9.35% - not to trigger off the end of June.
Last thing we need is for it to go that high. I am looking at the numbers for UR going back three years and in Dec 08 it was 8.4, Jan 09 - 9.0 and Feb 09 - 9.5. If I am doing it correctly that avg's to 8.966 and multiplied by 110%, I am assuming that NC unemployment rate would have to drop below 9.9 on the next BLS report. Then again I could be as wrong as possible too.
They've reported new state UE data, but no comment on EUC/EB, as yet. If there are any imminent changes, I expect they will announce it later this week or early next week.
In SC the last pay out for EB is 4-7-12. Spoke to rep at UO stated that because of unemployment rate nationwide that is the reason for EB program phasing out. She indicated the UR is 9.3 in SC.
National unemployment rate is not the reason SC won't be paying after 4/7. The lookback trigger in the federal legislation is.
And, lo and behold, this appears on SC website today:
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Each state’s participation in the EB program is based on if a series of its monthly unemployment rates are higher than the national level, known as a trigger rate. As of March 13, South Carolina is no longer eligible for the program. The last week payable for EB is the week ending April 7.
However, BLS has not yet announced. I expect there will be something on all six states - Massachusetts, Missouri, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee - ending payments on April 7 in the next day or so.
And, lo and behold, this appears on SC website today:
However, BLS has not yet announced. I expect there will be something on all six states - Massachusetts, Missouri, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee - ending payments on April 7 in the next day or so.
It's reported in the Greenville (SC) News this morning that SC EB ends 4/7. Our 6 weeks of Tier IV ends 4/7 so down to last weeks. Is there any reason to think we'd get the added 10 weeks to Tier IV, Ariadne22?
It's reported in the Greenville (SC) News this morning that SC EB ends 4/7. Our 6 weeks of Tier IV ends 4/7 so down to last weeks. Is there any reason to think we'd get the added 10 weeks to Tier IV, Ariadne22?
Because you began drawing on Tier IV while your state was paying EB, for now I am saying, "No." Based on this:
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If the State is in an EB period (as determined under the Federal-State Extended Unemployment Compensation Act (EUCA)) on February 22, 2012, but later triggers “off,” then individuals with EUC08 Fourth Tier amounts in their accounts on February 22, 2012 will NOT have the additional amounts of EUC08 Fourth Tier added to their accounts when the State triggers “off.” (The additional amounts for individuals with remaining EUC08 Fourth Tier entitlement under the “old” law are only available for individuals who: 1) Have remaining EUC08 Fourth Tier entitlement on February 22, 2012, and 2) are claiming against States not in an EB period (as determined under EUCA) on February 22, 2012.)
In your case, you meet criteria #1 - you had not yet drawn on Tier IV; but not criteria #2, as your state was paying EB as of 2/22.
Plan on no augmentation. If SC does increase your Tier IV account, of course, please let us know.
Last edited by Ariadne22; 03-16-2012 at 12:29 PM..
I also agree with Ariadne22's take that very few tier 4 claimants will see the extra 10 weeks, but I base my take on this alternate bullet point:
o In states whose EB periods (as determined under EUCA) will end before
June 1, 2012, beginning the first week after the EB period ends, all individuals
with new EUC08 Fourth Tier entitlement could qualify for the increased
maximum benefit amounts.
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