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Old 03-06-2014, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by deenix73 View Post
Reid just introduced another bill. But now they off until monday at 4.
Monday at FOUR?!?!?!?! What a life these people have!

Old 03-06-2014, 06:34 PM
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I think they are in at 2 and the role call for the firsts vote (they are still doing nominations) is 4 pm , Monday is always a short 3-4 hours day . The only full days the House and Senate work are Tues_Wed & Thursday.
Old 03-06-2014, 06:49 PM
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Senator Portman has offered a substantially good bill, except for the part affecting disabled workers. That article didn't say how much of the $12 billion would come from the disability part. If that amount could be found from another source, the Senate could pass Sen. Portman's bill with an amendment replacing the disability part with another pay-for.

I found this--savings from stopping 117,000 disabled people from getting unemployment insurance and disability insurance simultaneously, reportedly $850 million
Portman Offers Amendment to Prevent Duplicative Spending By Ending Double-Dipping between Unemployment & Disability Benefits - Press Releases - Newsroom - Rob Portman

The recent Debt Deal included $2.4 billion leftover funds, reportedly to be used for whatever Congress does with the doctor portion of the Medicare system. Both parties and the AMA support a long-term complete overhaul of the system, which will cost $105 billion, rather than another short-term "doc fix." To do that, they need to find a really big pay-for to cover such a large amount. In that light, the Senate could easily appropriate $850 million from the Debt Deal's leftover funds to pass Sen. Portman's bill.

Let's hope both parties get to the sausage-making this weekend. If they can replace the disabled part with other funding, I have a good feeling that they can pass this bill through both houses next week. With what's going on in the Ukraine, Congress has bigger issues at hand and needs to get the UI bill behind them. Kudos to Sen. Portman if he can achieve this and save the day.
Old 03-06-2014, 07:03 PM
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MG1977 , look at the date of that portman bill, was more then a month ago , it was rejected already and we discussed it here when it was rejected. . its dead. Portman is not saving anything. the only reason he put that out a month ago was becasue he killed the EUC bill and was the deciding NO vote. He was trying to save face. Hes not Hero.. Just the opposite , it it wasnt for him EUC would be in the house already.

There will be no vote other then a possible procedural vote this week H Ried said today but he didnt think it could happen due to the time caused by the snow storm and the Ukraine crisis so it may happen at the end of the month. , the bill has to go through debates and admendments , it will not be done until the end of the month because they are going on break again Thursday. There will be no bill passing anywhere this week. Can thappen due to the time a bill needs. These are brand new bills. they have to have the 30 hour of debate then the 2-3 day of Admendments. Then it would need to go through the whole debate and admendment proccess in the House. If things got done fast enough we are still looking at Early April.
Old 03-06-2014, 07:11 PM
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Thanks to Deenix for posting today's Politico article.
Old 03-06-2014, 07:28 PM
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Damage, ZERO voters who lean Republican are going to vote against any Republican candidate just because he or she voted in favor of extending UI. None. Nada. On the other hand, Republicans who live in swing districts and swing states can pick up independent votes by visibly taking the lead in passing the UI bill in an expeditious manner. The bill will help the 200,000+ veterans who have been affected and the hundreds of thousands of additional veterans who stand to be affected. The bill scales back the federal program and, except for the disability part, successfully achieves a way to pay for it. All the Democrats need to do is find a reasonable pay-for to replace the disabled part, and then get the heck out of the way. The Senate can pass bills by unanimous consent, and so can the House. On Sept. 14, 2001, less than three days after 9/11, Congress passed a War bill.
Old 03-06-2014, 07:40 PM
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Have you watched any of this so far. Republicans do not want this to pass and Mitch McConnell already started to block it again by saying they want unlimited amendments. After 3 months its a laugh to think there will be Unanimous consent. Thats absolutely ridiculous . J Boehner said this week he will not allow it in. Not going to happen. The Republicans are filibustering it. You can have unanimous consent with a filibuster. And as of now there is no bills even up for a vote. H Ried himself said that they dont have the time this week to do any more then a Procedural vote because of the Weather etc. These are facts not opinions. I wish you were right as I need the money as much as anyone else but nothing will happen before April becuase of the stupid break they are going on again.

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Old 03-06-2014, 08:03 PM
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Yes, there's the whole political mess, with McConnell making ridiculous demands and Reid proposing unpassable bills. Hence the need for Cloture, of which at one time I thought only one vote was needed, but someone corrected me and said two votes are needed before the main bill's vote. So far, they've gotten through the first Cloture vote. Now they're trying (again) for the second Cloture vote. Of course, most Republicans will vote no for their own reasons. But all that's needed is 5: Senators Portman, Kirk, Coats, Ayotte, and Collins. Speaker Boehner has said he's waiting for the Senate to produce a bill. Then, once he allows it a vote in the House, it will pass.
Old 03-06-2014, 08:11 PM
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Not trying to be rude but What are you watching , they haven't even done the first cloture vote yet. Nothing has happened yet. All H Ried did was read it and put it on the calendar but did not say when it would be voted on.

. It still needs its first cloture vote. Once a vote goes to Cloture it needs to be voted on 2 more times and it takes a week because you have to have a first Procedural vote, then 30 hours of debate which is 2 days (There is a filibuster in place so they can not have unanimous consent) then a second cloture vote (60 needed again) and then a third Cloture vote where 51 is needed. but it does not matter. They are only in for 3 days next week and they are off until almost April. And H Ried himself has said that he still does not have the votes so he is not calling for any vote yet. Really dosent matter since the Republicans are planning on blocking it with amendments and J Boehner already said he will not allow the bill currently in the Senate into the House. Nothing will get done this week , even H Ried said as much. It is just a big mess.

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Old 03-06-2014, 08:17 PM
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And the other poster is correct they are only in Monday for a few votes and come in at 4pm. They gave the scheudle at the end of the day and there is nothing on the calendar for unemployment this coming week.

Here is Mondays schedule, again they are only in for 2 hours Monday. They are only coming in to finnish the 2 left over votes from today that got pushed back because of the storm. What a gig, they miss 2 days because of snow and cant come in on a Friday. This is what they get paid $200K a year for.

The Senate stands adjourned until 4:00pm on Monday, March 10, 2014. Following any Leader remarks, the Senate will be in a period of morning business until 5:00pm with Senators permitted to speak therein for up to 10 minutes each.

At 5:00pm, the Senate will proceed to Executive Session to consider Executive Calendar #563, Carolyn B. McHugh, of Utah, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Tenth Circuit with the time until 5:30pm equally divided and controlled in the usual form.

At 5:30pm, there will be 2 roll call votes:

- Motion to invoke cloture on the McHugh nomination and

- Passage of S.1917, the Victims Protection Act of 2014.

If cloture is invoked on the McHugh nomination, the time during the vote on passage of S.1917 will count post-cloture on the McHugh nomination.
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