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Old 07-11-2018, 11:59 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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I know someone in Pennsylvania who was let go from her job very suddenly. She worked for a company that worked for the government. They called her up and told her they were letting her go (most of her job was done from home). They didn't tell her why, although they did have her stop seeing clients recently.

We've told her she should file an unemployment claim but she insists she is not eligible because you need a "reason" to file. We told her being unemployed is a reason! Just apply and see what happens.

Is Pennsylvania a difficult state to be approved for unemployment?
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Tell her to file. Being fired is a reason, and the only reason she should state at this time. Doesn't matter if it's hard to get approved or not. Get the money.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Thanks. We'll tell her husband so he can convince her. She's being stubborn.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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Or she's got money to burn.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:10 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Now she says they told her that her work was "not up to standard." She hadn't been given any warning except that she suddenly wasn't allowed to go out to see clients in person.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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She can still apply for UI, say she was "fired," and it will be up to the employer to prove by a preponderance of the admissible evidence that her work truly wasn't up to standard, was somehow willful, and rose to the level of misconduct.

You need to explain to her that if she doesn't try to get the UI and make the company pay that they will then be incented to keep doing it, and destroying other people's lives. If the company had to pay for ALL the UI claims they created, more managers would think, "do we want to be on the hook for a UI claim (up to $13,000) or should we use that money to improve the worker's performance."
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Erie, PA
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Now she says they told her that her work was "not up to standard." She hadn't been given any warning except that she suddenly wasn't allowed to go out to see clients in person.
Go ahead and have her apply and put the reason as "dismissal".

Since it was not related to policy violation or misconduct, it should not be an issue for her to get unemployment compensation--especially if the employer did not give any prior counselings/warnings before letting her go.

The employer may fight it but generally PA is pretty employee friendly for unemployment.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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Now she says they told her that her work was "not up to standard." She hadn't been given any warning except that she suddenly wasn't allowed to go out to see clients in person.
In other words she screwed up royally and too ashamed to admit it. Whenever a story starts to change for the worst, you know it's just going to keep going downhill with each new revised version until you hit the truth. However, even if she licked the boss in the kahonnas and pushed his face into dog doo, she still needs to apply because you never know what the former employer will do.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:06 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Now her story is that she quit.

So I don't know what to believe anymore.
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