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Old 09-25-2009, 09:06 PM
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Listen you may have moved around the whole United States for a job. But let me tell you something. We or I do not choose to sit on my butt, I got laid off because my employer dealt with the car industries and that is what put me out of a job. Do you own a house, do you have kids? When you own a home you just cannot up and leave and what about if your kids are in school. You can not drag them across the USA. Wake Up the employment rate in the US is at its highest. And some people don't have the money to start up a business if we did have that kind of money we would not be where we are right now........So get off your high horse.
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:50 PM
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You know some of you really erk me. We don't like being on unemployment but there are NO JOBS out there. If there is there are about 250-300 people in our area applying for the same position or we are over qualified for the position they are offering. For those that have a job be thankful because it is not fun wondering how you are going to make your next house payment or pay your electric bill or gas bill. So don't even sit there and preach about you have to pay taxes for the ones that are unemployed. I was at my last job for 10 years worked all my life and I paid taxes too. So get off our backs.
I am 34 years old, and have worked since I was 16. I am proud to say I have NEVER went on unemployment. Whenever I lost a job, I immediately went out and got another one. I have always looked down on people who went on unemployment, as they are usually lazy low life's who take advantage of the system. I seen people take advantage of it first hand. However, times have changed. I have never seen the job market like this. I have looked for a second job for the last 5 months or so, and have found nothing. I finally gave up on it. I have changed my views on people who are on unemployment. It is not their fault. In other words, I agree with your post.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:18 AM
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Listen you may have moved around the whole United States for a job. But let me tell you something. We or I do not choose to sit on my butt, I got laid off because my employer dealt with the car industries and that is what put me out of a job. Do you own a house, do you have kids? When you own a home you just cannot up and leave and what about if your kids are in school. You can not drag them across the USA. Wake Up the employment rate in the US is at its highest. And some people don't have the money to start up a business if we did have that kind of money we would not be where we are right now........So get off your high horse.
Oh, well, in that case, having kids means you have to stay put, so the rest of us can support you to stay at home and do nothing.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:21 AM
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When I was laid off last December, I spent four months looking for a job in Greenville, SC where I had lived the previous 5 years. I found absolutely nothing, so I moved to Dallas, and in three months, I got several interviews and a job offer.

If I said "oh no I can't move" I would still be unemployed.

As an adult you should be expected to do what it takes to pay your living expenses. Listing a bunch of lame excuses so you can continue to stay home and watch TV while the rest of us work our butts off and pay taxes is just revolting.

Imagine if we had this idiotic system in the 1800's.... there would be no transcontinental railroad, no states named "Wyoming" or "California" and NYC would have 50 million people today, all because people can't be bothered to be inconvenienced in order to obtain income.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:54 PM
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When I was laid off last December, I spent four months looking for a job in Greenville, SC where I had lived the previous 5 years. I found absolutely nothing, so I moved to Dallas, and in three months, I got several interviews and a job offer.

If I said "oh no I can't move" I would still be unemployed.

As an adult you should be expected to do what it takes to pay your living expenses. Listing a bunch of lame excuses so you can continue to stay home and watch TV while the rest of us work our butts off and pay taxes is just revolting.

Imagine if we had this idiotic system in the 1800's.... there would be no transcontinental railroad, no states named "Wyoming" or "California" and NYC would have 50 million people today, all because people can't be bothered to be inconvenienced in order to obtain income.
When you were laid off did you go on unemployment ?
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:32 PM
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When you were laid off did you go on unemployment ?
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:49 PM
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You know some of you really erk me. We don't like being on unemployment but there are NO JOBS out there. If there is there are about 250-300 people in our area applying for the same position or we are over qualified for the position they are offering. For those that have a job be thankful because it is not fun wondering how you are going to make your next house payment or pay your electric bill or gas bill. So don't even sit there and preach about you have to pay taxes for the ones that are unemployed. I was at my last job for 10 years worked all my life and I paid taxes too. So get off our backs.
So why are you allowed to get "bailed out" with extended benefits while others are not? Such as college graduates or those who have had their work hours cut back?

Sure if we were talking about original period (which you earned because you paid into it) but we are taking about being subsidized by tax payers just like the bankers, Wall Street, and automakers.

It has been extended from 26 to 72 week and just recently again. That's over a year and a half.

Everyone should then get the bailout known as "extended" federal unemployment benefits.
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Old 09-26-2009, 11:10 PM
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When I was laid off last December, I spent four months looking for a job in Greenville, SC where I had lived the previous 5 years. I found absolutely nothing, so I moved to Dallas, and in three months, I got several interviews and a job offer.

If I said "oh no I can't move" I would still be unemployed.

As an adult you should be expected to do what it takes to pay your living expenses. Listing a bunch of lame excuses so you can continue to stay home and watch TV while the rest of us work our butts off and pay taxes is just revolting.

Imagine if we had this idiotic system in the 1800's.... there would be no transcontinental railroad, no states named "Wyoming" or "California" and NYC would have 50 million people today, all because people can't be bothered to be inconvenienced in order to obtain income.
I'm still looking JS1 and it isn't any better now.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:44 AM
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I am 34 years old, and have worked since I was 16. I am proud to say I have NEVER went on unemployment. Whenever I lost a job, I immediately went out and got another one. I have always looked down on people who went on unemployment, as they are usually lazy low life's who take advantage of the system. I seen people take advantage of it first hand. However, times have changed. I have never seen the job market like this. I have looked for a second job for the last 5 months or so, and have found nothing. I finally gave up on it. I have changed my views on people who are on unemployment. It is not their fault. In other words, I agree with your post.
I'm just like you. It took me until I was 41 to go on unemployment, though my wife had been several times in the last 10 years but always got a job sometime before the 26-week period ended. This time is different unfortunately, and I hope that this is a temporary blip and not a situation our country is going to have to deal with for years. I find it hard to believe that we're giving out 79 (and possibly soon 92) weeks unemployment, but I can see why.

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Imagine if we had this idiotic system in the 1800's.... there would be no transcontinental railroad, no states named "Wyoming" or "California" and NYC would have 50 million people today, all because people can't be bothered to be inconvenienced in order to obtain income.
First off, in the 1800's government didn't run up debts the way the do now, making it easier to fund all of these things that you mentioned.

And you're wrong about the 1800's. Since we didn't have FDIC, or unemployment insurance, etc. what actually happened is banks failed all the time and people tended to stuff their money in mattresses and not trust them. People were often unemployed, broke, and constantly moving far more than today. Remember, schools were a lot simpler then so it wasn't as big a deal to move your kids mid-year. Also, a lot more people were working for themselves as farmers. A lot of why we have the things we have today is because in the 1930s we had a situation where without them we'd have millions of perpetually homeless families.

Back in the 1800s, you only heard about the few "haves" doing big things, but the media, what little it was, didn't report the "have nots" constantly moving, or things like 10 people crowded into a 1 bedroom apartment (illegal today), or (partially cause of these things plus more infant mortality) that the average life expectancy was like 45.
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:59 AM
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Wheelsup,

I have to say I totally disagree with you. I am one of those people who did up and move to another city seeking work. However, I have still not found employment. My EEUC is scheduled to run out tomorrow and I have no idea as to what I am going to do. I would much rather be working instead of collecting unemployment. I have worked since I was in high school and am now in my 40s, which makes it even more difficult to secure employment. No, I do not look like it, but it can be a strike against me.

I don't know anyone who is on UI and just loves it. Many of the people who were laid off from the same company I was working at have been trying desperately to find work ANYWHERE they can but even getting a job a Wal-mart is difficult because so many are out of work and taking whatever they can get.

I left Indiana and moved to a southern city with hopes of landing something. NOTHING. I know many other people who are still looking for work also. So, everything is not always as cut and dry as you make it out to be. I would say have a little compassion because nothing is guaranteed to anyone, and you may one day find yourself COMPLETELY without work for well over a year, as myself, many of my former co-workers and colleagues have.
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