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Old 04-27-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Before this goes any further, I would like to point out that there is a skeptic/debunker's opinion available for just about every Ufo case that is well known. This gives the public (those that don't know the truth) two options in which to believe. It's a tactic that is used even in politics (liberal vs conservative).

With such clever tactics in place, the public has to rely on their own logic and their own ideology (both of which are influenced heavily by the media and the mentality of one's local area). As a result, a person usually has to experience an Ufo before they become open to the idea that reports from military witnesses are in fact real. For those folks (UFO witnesses), reports from credible military witnesses somewhat vindicates them. There is a feeling of comfort to know that someone in high places is now saying "YES, I've witnessed Ufos too". FWIW, nearly 14% of Americans claim to have seen an UFO. I'd say that number would be much greater if there wasn't a giggle factor associated with seeing an UFO.

Now, let's talk about UFOs and nukes

This is a very sensitive topic for many reasons. Personally, I don't wish to argue about whether or not the reports are real. I prefer the "what if" approach.

What if it's just a bunch of lies
This would be the "simplest" answer. If we all believe its a lie, then there is no reason for anyone to waste their time inquiring about this topic (thus no reason to answer questions about this topic either). This option is the "case closed, nothing to see here folks" option.

What if it's the truth
This option presents too many "issues" such as National security, religious impacts, and scientific impacts. It is the more difficult pill to swallow of the two options. Clearly, believing this all to be a lie is the path of least resistence (sort of like believing that a round Earth was a lie at one point was the path of least resistence). We do have a history of taking the "easy road" instead of the truth road. Call it human nature...
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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I think it is odd (not) of course that you refuse to read any of the links. Considering they are not from the air force. Please who are these 120 service men, and why are they not speaking up and identifying themselves. I have not heard of any of them. Salas and Hastings are liars, so I wont go by any book they write.

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Dr. Allen Hynek who was the scientific Advisor for project Blue Book finally came out and admitted that the government lied, and purposely missled the American public. Link below


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFA9OUjd8k

How many times can they openly lie to you, before you start to question?
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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[quote=Nea1;18910562]I think it is odd (not) of course that you refuse to read any of the links. Considering they are not from the air force. Please who are these 120 service men, and why are they not speaking up and identifying themselves. I have not heard of any of them. Salas and Hastings are liars, so I wont go by any book they write.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFA9OUjd8k
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Dr. Allen Hynek who was the scientific Advisor for project Blue Book finally came out and admitted that the government lied, and purposely missled the American public. Link below


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFA9OUjd8k

How many times can they openly lie to you, before you start to question?
Here is the video I think you meant to post.


YouTube - Dr. J Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers do see UFO's ! (1977)
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Before this goes any further, I would like to point out that there is a skeptic/debunker's opinion available for just about every Ufo case that is well known. This gives the public (those that don't know the truth) two options in which to believe. It's a tactic that is used even in politics (liberal vs conservative).

With such clever tactics in place, the public has to rely on their own logic and their own ideology (both of which are influenced heavily by the media and the mentality of one's local area). As a result, a person usually has to experience an Ufo before they become open to the idea that reports from military witnesses are in fact real. For those folks (UFO witnesses), reports from credible military witnesses somewhat vindicates them. There is a feeling of comfort to know that someone in high places is now saying "YES, I've witnessed Ufos too". FWIW, nearly 14% of Americans claim to have seen an UFO. I'd say that number would be much greater if there wasn't a giggle factor associated with seeing an UFO.

Now, let's talk about UFOs and nukes

This is a very sensitive topic for many reasons. Personally, I don't wish to argue about whether or not the reports are real. I prefer the "what if" approach.

What if it's just a bunch of lies
This would be the "simplest" answer. If we all believe its a lie, then there is no reason for anyone to waste their time inquiring about this topic (thus no reason to answer questions about this topic either). This option is the "case closed, nothing to see here folks" option.

What if it's the truth
This option presents too many "issues" such as National security, religious impacts, and scientific impacts. It is the more difficult pill to swallow of the two options. Clearly, believing this all to be a lie is the path of least resistence (sort of like believing that a round Earth was a lie at one point was the path of least resistence). We do have a history of taking the "easy road" instead of the truth road. Call it human nature...


Of course there is, there has to be, someone has to examine and investigate because if we didn't people would be believing all sorts of asinine crap. If there was no evidence of any wrong doing or lying by the people involved or other evidence of their character being questionable, then there would be nothing be skeptical about. I just find if funny that almost all the so called ufo sightings has some sketchy person or persons involved. Why do you think that is. OR there is no real evidence other than hearsay. NO ONE knows the truth, they just think they do. Until one flies right out for all to see and leave real evidence behind, we all have no idea. If there were no connections to a lie, then we would not believe it to be a lie. But they all seem to go that way.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Oh ok, I will believe him. Because he said so.

I am so glad I am not that gullible.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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Thanks urbancharlotte. I did my best, but was unable to post it. Actually the one I tried to post has Hynek saying that Project Book was put out there to keep the people from the real truth.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Then aliens, in what ever form they come, unless absolutely human (to the DNA level) would prove that we are not created in gods image, but that god is created in mans image. But that is so obvious to begin with.

Evolution rules: Throughout the universe
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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Oh ok, I will believe him. Because he said so.

I am so glad I am not that gullible.



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Old 04-27-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Then aliens, in what ever form they come, unless absolutely human (to the DNA level) would prove that we are not created in gods image, but that god is created in mans image. But that is so obvious to begin with.

Evolution rules: Throughout the universe
God knew these aliens from the beginning. They are not human, and they are not our friends. And they have come here to deceive us.
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