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Old 09-24-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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THANX for the links N.B....I agree the images look organic or as you say.....remind me of permafrost areas after expanding/thawing cycles.....maybe this is a similar phenomena but involving heat??????

I don't think they compare to the Nazca Lines.
I agree the Mideastern shapes definitely not like the Nazca Lines. The only comparison I can think of is that they both have shapes which are more easily seen from the air. They look more similar in pattern to the South African shapes though. Are there any ground images of the Mideast shapes that you know of? The reason I'm asking is because ground images of the ones in Africa look like they were arranged by people, like a low wall, although the claim of 200,000 years ago is a big stretch of the imagination. The ones in Jordan, Syria or Saudi Arabia, seem to be stacked, but it's kind of hard to tell the scale from aerial photos.

The Mima Mounds do look somewhat similar to the effects of permafrost cycles of freezing and thawing. The Phoenix Lander also caught some interesting formations on Mars related to freezing and thawing, but I think those were more hexagonal. As for the Band of Holes near Pisco, Peru, it's hard to guess what that's all about. In any case, some, like the mounds, are most likely caused by natural phenomena, including wind activity.

I'm still looking for better detailed photos of the Mideast shapes. I did come across an article about them though. It seems these shapes have been known for years, so it's not like it's a recent discovery. They were first discovered by an RAF pilot named Lt. Percy Maitland, flying over them in 1927. A professor of classics and ancient history at the University of Western Australia, David Kennedy, has done some research on them. He's made a number of discoveries in the Mideast using Google Earth. These geoglyphs are thought to be over 2000 years old. Exactly who made them, and why, remains a big mystery. Some have spokes that seem to align with the rising and setting sun. One suggestion is that they might be some kind of ancient burial sites.
Saudi Gazette - Who created these huge, mysterious wheel patterns?

Archaeologist May Have Found Over a Thousand Tombs with Google Earth

UWA Staff Profile > The University of Western Australia: The University of Western Australia
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:41 PM
 
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I agree the Mideastern shapes definitely not like the Nazca Lines. The only comparison I can think of is that they both have shapes which are more easily seen from the air. They look more similar in pattern to the South African shapes though. Are there any ground images of the Mideast shapes that you know of? The reason I'm asking is because ground images of the ones in Africa look like they were arranged by people, like a low wall, although the claim of 200,000 years ago is a big stretch of the imagination. The ones in Jordan, Syria or Saudi Arabia, seem to be stacked, but it's kind of hard to tell the scale from aerial photos.

The Mima Mounds do look somewhat similar to the effects of permafrost cycles of freezing and thawing. The Phoenix Lander also caught some interesting formations on Mars related to freezing and thawing, but I think those were more hexagonal. As for the Band of Holes near Pisco, Peru, it's hard to guess what that's all about. In any case, some, like the mounds, are most likely caused by natural phenomena, including wind activity.

I'm still looking for better detailed photos of the Mideast shapes. I did come across an article about them though. It seems these shapes have been known for years, so it's not like it's a recent discovery. They were first discovered by an RAF pilot named Lt. Percy Maitland, flying over them in 1927. A professor of classics and ancient history at the University of Western Australia, David Kennedy, has done some research on them. He's made a number of discoveries in the Mideast using Google Earth. These geoglyphs are thought to be over 2000 years old. Exactly who made them, and why, remains a big mystery. Some have spokes that seem to align with the rising and setting sun. One suggestion is that they might be some kind of ancient burial sites.
Saudi Gazette - Who created these huge, mysterious wheel patterns?

Archaeologist May Have Found Over a Thousand Tombs with Google Earth

UWA Staff Profile > The University of Western Australia: The University of Western Australia
Once again thanx for the links. The various shapes may be the result of many phenomena both manmade and geological......climate related also....

We tend to try to lump the shapes together in our minds for clarity/organization and the ease of one explanation, when it seems there are many factors involved and various reasons for the patterns that we see.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:55 AM
 
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Thanks for the links NB

My gut thought is that these are not 2,000 years old but instead go back to the Holocene/Pleistocene boundary 8,000 b.c. to 12,000 b.c. as these structures aren't found in any of the ciivilizations going back to the earliest known peoples the Sumerians/Babylonians.

We know that there were super intellegent peoples in the middle east and europe who mysteriously disappeared during the ''Younger Dryas Event'' (EST 11,500 b.c.) that also killed off the giant mammals and even the north american Clovis peoples etc. and so that's my guessing about this .
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:03 AM
 
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Thanks for the links NB

My gut thought is that these are not 2,000 years old but instead go back to the Holocene/Pleistocene boundary 8,000 b.c. to 12,000 b.c. as these structures aren't found in any of the ciivilizations going back to the earliest known peoples the Sumerians/Babylonians.

We know that there were super intellegent peoples in the middle east and europe who mysteriously disappeared during the ''Younger Dryas Event'' (EST 11,500 b.c.) that also killed off the giant mammals and even the north american Clovis peoples etc. and so that's my guessing about this .
Your gut hunch could well be right. What Prof. David Kennedy's had said was since there are no known records of these structures, it's fairly reasonable to say that they are probably over 2000 years old. That gives plenty of room to be much older. It's unknown who built them or why they were built. I don't think he wanted to stick his professional neck out on the line by attempting to date these structures without more valid reasons. Probably as a way to answer all those who want to know, he simply said they could've been built 150 years ago or 10,000 years ago. We don't know how old they are. His point is valid. There would have to be teams on the ground digging through the area to see if there are artifacts that can be found which show the presence of humans. I don't think that's been done yet. I wouldn't be surprised that they're extremely old. I doubt the structures in Africa are 200,000 years old as Michael Tellinger claims, or the ones in the Mideast. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised that they are very, very old. 10,000 to 11,000 or so years isn''t beyond possibility. On the other hand, maybe they were created by early Bedouins for some reason. Lots of speculation but nothing conclusive.

There are some notable differences between the African structures and the Mideastern structures. The ones in Africa were made using flat stones intentionally stacked up like short walls. The ones in the Mideast appear to be in lava fields, with the interior spaces of the structures having been cleared out and the lines made of lava rocks that were piled up as part of the design. They don't exactly look like walls. But again, aerial or satellite photos are excellent tools to discover such hidden mysteries, but it'd still be better to have some close up ground images to really have a much better look at them.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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but it'd still be better to have some close up ground images to really have a much better look at them.
Yeap i agree and i wish that world re-nowned pleistocene archaeologist Klaus Schmidt who's currently in charge of the Gobeki Tepe (est 9,000 b.c.) dig site could see them and weigh in his thoughts about them.
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