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Old 11-04-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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Captain Robert Byrd had an encounter with those that live in Hollow Earth

Simply have to point out that if Earth is Hollow... It is not Flat.

Maybe in the first Firmament...
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:26 PM
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Captain Robert Byrd had an encounter with those that live in Hollow Earth

Simply have to point out that if Earth is Hollow... It is not Flat.

Maybe in the first Firmament...
A flat earth could extend down for ten thousand miles—or to infinity -1—plenty of room for a big, big hidden world.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Captain Robert Byrd had an encounter with those that live in Hollow Earth

Simply have to point out that if Earth is Hollow... It is not Flat.

Maybe in the first Firmament...
You can read Byrd's "diary" here:

Secret Diary of Admiral Byrd?

Serious problems with the diary include:

  • It originated from the Hollow Earth Society in Missouri, which had a cottage industry selling copies of it.
  • It reads like an Amazing Stories plot and seems to me to have been influenced by Lovecraft a bit
  • The florid, ridiculous writing style is nothing like other pieces of writing by Byrd
  • F. Amadeus Giannini claimed Byrd found lands beyond the NORTH pole in his "Worlds Beyond the Pole"

I suggest the Hollow Earth Society used Giannini's book as a starting point and wrote the bogus diary, situating it at the South rather than the North Pole, and all of this information has gotten bent and twisted together on the internet as it's gotten spread around.
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Old 11-05-2018, 05:11 AM
 
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It is all very well saying the Diary is fake. It may be, but there are plenty of other stories coming out of there in which are perhaps some elements of truth.

Also, strange that the USA military was needed to go all the way to the Antarctic just to establish a base and do some training. Thats a lot of equipment and ships as well as a brand new aircraft carrier (see below) if this guy is to be believed. Plenty of mighty cold areas nearer than Antacrtica to do training in.

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Operation Highjump commenced 26 August 1946 and ended in late February 1947. Task Force 68 included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and 33 aircraft. Operation Highjump's primary mission was to establish the Antarctic research base Little America IV.
Highjump’s objectives, according to the U.S. Navy report of the operation, were:

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Training personnel and testing equipment in frigid conditions;
Consolidating and extending the United States' sovereignty over the largest practicable area of the Antarctic continent (publicly denied as a goal even before the expedition ended);[3][citation needed]
Determining the feasibility of establishing, maintaining, and utilizing bases in the Antarctic and investigating possible base sites;
Developing techniques for establishing, maintaining, and utilizing air bases on ice, with particular attention to later applicability of such techniques to operations in interior Greenland, where conditions are comparable to those in the Antarctic;
Amplifying existing stores of knowledge of electromagnetic, geological, geographic, hydrographic, and meteorological propagation conditions in the area;
Supplementary objectives of the Nanook expedition (a smaller equivalent conducted off eastern Greenland).
Above Top Secret Forum Of course, we cannot believe anything anyone says there, but I though this post (my bolded text) would be interesting for those who love conspiracy theories.
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Back in the 90's i was maintaince for C-141's and worked on a transient aircraft from Mcguier AFB on it's way to none other than Antartica. The plane was loaded to the gills with high exposives and m-60 machine guns- susposidly going to fly non stop there aerial refeuling all the way. does make one wonder.

i just came back from the other end of the globe after a year at the US's northern most base. Thule Greenland used to be a super secret facility and there is TONS of history up there- most of it still classified. Do an internet search about "camp TOTO" or "Century city" sometime. With what has been done in the past at Thule only lends more validity to theories of something going on at the South pole
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After the war, the US Navy all of a sudden put together a crash operation to go to Antarctica. They even sent a brand new aircraft carrier that was fresh off its shakedown cruise and NOT ready for operations. The whole mission was put together within a single year, from conception to execution. They landed in two prongs and converged on the area that Germany called Neuschwabbenland in a pincer move, then moved inland from there. They left over a month early, without waiting for a second chance to map a couple of areas that had been obscured earlier by weather, without their land expedition reaching the south pole. They just decided it was time to go home early.
Last but not least, when a PBY aircraft was downed by a strange phenomenon similiar to "foo fighters" which had harassed bomber crews over Germany in the war, the surviving crewman were airdropped RIFLES immediately upon being located. What in the bloody bloody hell do you need a rifle for in Antarctica?
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Old 11-05-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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It is all very well saying the Diary is fake. It may be, but there are plenty of other stories coming out of there in which are perhaps some elements of truth.

Also, strange that the USA military was needed to go all the way to the Antarctic just to establish a base and do some training. Thats a lot of equipment and ships as well as a brand new aircraft carrier (see below) if this guy is to be believed. Plenty of mighty cold areas nearer than Antacrtica to do training in.
World politics change. We go from periods of war, to periods were we anticipate war, and then we have times of peace. Of course throughout those time we still pay 'experts' to identify problems and make 'adjustments' before they become problems. When it comes to Antarctica; we never want our enemies or competitors to one up us. Look at the big mistake Russia made by selling us Alaska. They never anticipated the mineral wealth and strategic importance it would have in the future. My feeling is that we did not want Antarctica to be our Alaska simply because we had no presence on the continent. It will be the same with the moon and Mars; we will not want Russia, China or any other country to take possession simply because they are the first or only explorers. Sometimes it takes a little military intervention to tell others that we also have a claim to that land.

Of course others will always speculate on what are our true intentions. We also will never tell everybody what we intend to accomplish; that's simply statesmanship. You cannot play a game of poker with your cards face up. But none of this means the earth is hollow!
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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If only 1 in a million planets with life on them have intelligent life, and only 1 in a million planets have life on them and only 1 in a million stars have planets, then, given that there are more stars in the heavens than grains of sand on the beaches, that still leaves one heckuvalot of planets with intelligent life.


Intelligent life elsewhere is a sure thing, BUT-- given the time required for inter planetary travel (and the seemingly iron-clad improbability of travel at near light speed) and the vastness of space, it's a near impossibility for any intelligent life form even capable of such travel to ever find our little rock floating around here. A cork takes up a larger proportion of the ocean than Earth takes up compared to the size of the Universe.


ps/ If they are smart enough to get here, they're way smarter than us and maybe we should be hiding from them instead of wasting $millions on searching for them. Verbum sapienti….
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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ps/ If they are smart enough to get here, they're way smarter than us and maybe we should be hiding from them instead of wasting $millions on searching for them. Verbum sapienti….
I agree, because of the time and resources to visit the different plants; they would not come for a selfie with a human! As it is, if they wanted to say hello, they could have done that from a distance. Coming this distance would be for only one reason: the survival of their race and not ours. Perhaps their race is smart enough to know it is dangerous for their health to go looking for trouble by broadcasting too much information about their species? To many humans simply never got over ET and picture the campfire with us and the aliens singing *** by yah.

We do have one major problem for human survival: we have all of our eggs in one basket. It is wise for us to colonize the moon, Mars, or other locations simply so we can 'restock' the Earth should a disaster ever happen. If we believe that humans should survive; it is important for us to get a foothold in space.

PS Perhaps I should have said Kum by yah - I did not realize I would be censored for the 'c'!
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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If only 1 in a million planets with life on them have intelligent life, and only 1 in a million planets have life on them and only 1 in a million stars have planets, then, given that there are more stars in the heavens than grains of sand on the beaches, that still leaves one heckuvalot of planets with intelligent life.
There are 400 billion stars in the Milky Way. Your conservative numbers therefore leave us with 4 planets in our galaxy with life on them -- which means we would likely be it in this galaxy. And in the absence of some method of intergalactic travel that wouldn't take billions of years, exploring other galaxies will be forever beyond us.

Additional factors to consider include: how many intelligent species develop advanced technology? How many develop interstellar spaceflight and the resources (and desire) to explore other systems? How many last long enough to actually do so?

Suppose there are 10,000 species of intelligent life in the Milky Way. Many of these will be pre-technological or non-technological (we're it for technology beyond wielding sticks and rocks on this planet) and of those that have developed some tech, most will be equivalent to our Victorian era or earlier based on the history of civilizations here on Earth. My guess is that there may be a handful of civilizations at our level or greater in the galaxy, but none of them are aware of the others because, well, 400 billion stars is a heckuvalot of stars.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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and only 1 in a million stars have planets

I don't think the odds are that high on this 1 issue, given what we keep finding with NASA searches
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Old 11-05-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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I don't think the odds are that high on this 1 issue, given what we keep finding with NASA searches

NASA, the ones that conceal the flat Earth as per Von Braun?
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