What do you think happens once we die? (light, ancient, spirits)

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Truth11

It is written...besides why take chances?

Sure it is also written that there is a Red Nosed Raindeer named Rudolph

Take chances? In what being a logical human that does not allow myself to be brainwashed.

I am a good human because I choose to be not because I fear what happenes to me when I die.

I look forward to my next journey

[Colorado^]

Originally Posted by TVC15

I am a good soul because I choose to be not because I fear what happenes to me when I die.

If you replace soul with person, I entirely agree.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Colorado^

If you replace soul with person, I entirely agree.

Will human suffice

[hoooka]

"The power of accurate observation is often
called cynicism by those who have not got it."
- George Bernard Shaw

[Colorado^]

Originally Posted by TVC15

Will human suffice

Will human sacrifice?

Oh, you said suffice

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Colorado^

It's not just my reality, but the scientific community's reality. And the scientific community is the ONLY authority on this subject since it is the only community that requires proof - you know actual evidence before claiming something to be true.

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Ahhh but the scientific community has never said that there is no such thing as a soul. So far we have not created a measuring device that can measure such a thing.

Originally Posted by Colorado^

[edit] and BTW I have experienced lucid dreams and I've taken LSD a few times, but hallucinations don't make for good science.

I have also tried LSD way back in the day and NEVER experienced anything spiritual at all.

There are levels of Lucidity. Many claim to Lucid Dream when in reality it is not a true Lucid Dream. There were no hallucinations in my Lucid Dream. It was unlike any feeling I have ever experienced on this planet even while in a deep meditative state of mind. I was fully consciously awake in the Lucid Dream.

However back to the scientific community. I watched an interesting documentary called DMT The Spirit Molecule. A Ph.D. scientist did an experiment to see if what people claimed were true.
He enlisted only fellow Ph.D.’s and staff members that were willing to participate in the study since they did not want a bunch of hippy drug users volunteering for the study. It was very interesting that one of the volunteers was a staunch atheist before the experiment...but changed her mind afterwards. She realized that there really was something on the "otherside"

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by =^..^=

Why would there be? It has no survival, reproductive or evolutionary value. And even if there was, since no one can remember it, it wouldn't matter.

You are attaching earthly and human characteristics as properties of our soul.

Once we are out of this fleshy body none of that pertains to us. Our soul is not constrained by the illusions that we experienced on planet earth in our fleshy body.

[shecat]

Hi


FAITH

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by shecat

HiFAITH

Hi,

Science and Logic.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

Or you...

Not as much as you will.

Your belief was something that was taught to you without logic involved. Just blind faith.

My belief stems from my life experiences and logic including a very strong scientific education and actual life experiences.

I depart with a flexible belief.

You depart with a concrete belief...who do you think will most likely experience the rude awakening?

I think it would be more interesting if people included why they believe as they do.

Keeping in mind that we all get why Christians think like they do. No harm meant but we have all heard over and over why they think like they do ad nauseum.

Here is a great quote from a brilliant American Physicists:

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”