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Old 06-16-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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He named all the Popes for hundreds of years including the early retirement of Benedict Such a feat is impossible to forge as the names were methodically and historically documented by the Vatican. dating back to the 12-16th century.
It's pretty evident that none of this is actually from 12th century written Saint Malachy. It was written by someone in the 16th century and attributed to Saint Malachy. The "prophecies" up until the 16th century are remarkably accurate. But think about it for half a second and you'll see why. It's very easy to "prophesy" the past.

After the 16th century, the supposed prophecies veer wildly all over the place. Here is a snippet from an article on just a few of the inaccuracies post-16th century:

9 things you need to know about the prophecy of St. Malachy |Blogs | NCRegister.com

8. What are some examples of mottoes that are hard to connect with popes after 1590?
Some examples include:

Pia civitas in bello ("Pious city in war"). This is connected with Innocent IV (1591), but there is no good way to link him with this motto. Some have pointed to the fact that he was patriarch of Jerusalem before his election to the papacy, and Jerusalem could be thought of as a "pious city," but so could Rome and many others. Almost any Christian city would count, and Jerusalem was not a Christian city at this time. Furthermore, Jerusalem was not at war when he was patriarch.

Aquila rapax ("Rapacious eagle"). This is connected with Pius VII (1800-1823), but there is no good way to link him with this motto. Some have proposed that his reign overlapped with that of Napoleon and that Napoleon could be described as a rapacious eagle (that is, a hungry commander of armies), but this is very tenuous and makes the motto not a description of the pope but of someone else who was on the world stage during his reign.

Religio depopulata ("Religion destroyed"). This is connected with Benedict XV (1914-1922), but there is no good way to link him in particular with this motto. There is no obvious connection to his name, family, place of origin, or coat of arms. He did not destroy religion or religious life. Neither were either destroyed during his reign. He did reign during World War I, but that did not destroy either. He also reigned when Communism came to power in Russia. That didn't destroy religion in his day or in Italy. And again, we'd be connecting the motto with something other than the pope. If that were allowed then it would be possible to connect every motto with something that happened somewhere in the world during a pope's day, and the prophecies would have no particular value as they would all be applicable to any pope.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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including the early retirement of Benedict
The St. Malachy prophecy doesn't foretell that.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:58 PM
 
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but there is no good way to link him with this motto
That would be putting him in chains.

That is why God has given the gift of interpretation, which doesn't include such hindering.
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