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How so? That does not parse for me. To me it sounds like saying "If you watch the movie you are actually watching the credits".
the basic idea behind near death experiences is that you died, saw the tunnel and the bright light, went into the light to be greeted by loved ones and were give the choice to go back or not given the choice and were told it wasn't your time. You get to see the way it will be when you finally go over.
Then should it not be called a "death experience"? The "Near" clearly indicates you did not actually die. Nor have I seen any evidence suggesting people who had such experiences actually did die. Quite the opposite. We have what we call "Clinical Death" which is not death.
Been near Death several times. Even pronounced dead at least once. But have no memories of any out-of-body type experiences. Had serious injuries that left me in a coma for a spell. But I do recall times when I was able to hear the Doctors and others talking.
the basic idea behind near death experiences is that you died, saw the tunnel and the bright light, went into the light to be greeted by loved ones and were give the choice to go back or not given the choice and were told it wasn't your time. You get to see the way it will be when you finally go over.
That's exactly it. That's the common denominator. Greeted by loved ones, feeling of returning home, given a choice (sometimes), most by the way, want to stay.
What I still don't understand though is people who insist NDEs are a product of a dying mind..., OK, maybe it is, but how can you describe so many people reporting the same detailed things? EG- tunnel, bright light, conversations with deceased loved ones, told not your time, etc. That, in itself should be a new phenonemon if you can't accept it is really happening. How else can this be explained?
Then should it not be called a "death experience"? The "Near" clearly indicates you did not actually die. Nor have I seen any evidence suggesting people who had such experiences actually did die. Quite the opposite. We have what we call "Clinical Death" which is not death.
then you can call it a near clinical death experience if you wish
Why not, it would be more accurate, and would be less likely to make people think they had an experience of an actual after life, when in fact there is no reason at all to think they have.
That's exactly it. That's the common denominator. Greeted by loved ones, feeling of returning home, given a choice (sometimes), most by the way, want to stay.
What I still don't understand though is people who insist NDEs are a product of a dying mind..., OK, maybe it is, but how can you describe so many people reporting the same detailed things? EG- tunnel, bright light, conversations with deceased loved ones, told not your time, etc. That, in itself should be a new phenonemon if you can't accept it is really happening. How else can this be explained?
Because the physical processes that cause this are the same.
If I stab both you and your friend with a knife, you'll both bleed, won't you?
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