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Old 11-14-2014, 02:12 AM
 
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I consider that point to be quite possible, having seen how cautious monkeys and baboons are when crossing a road. Never saw a run over monkey and never found a dead one that wasn't deliberately killed. .
Yeah, a lot of people have screwed-up ideas about the prevalence of human-and-mammal interaction. Just because you've never been in a car-cow collision doesn't mean cows don't exist.
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Old 11-14-2014, 02:22 AM
 
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It's worse than that. No one has ever seen a convincing photo of Bigfoot or found droppings. Or a bone. Or a tuft of hair they couldn't identify. No one. After 50+ years of heavy searching. Non-evidence says a lot.

If Bigfoot exists in North America, it must be supernatural, but there is no evidence such a creature exists in our ecosystem --- and a whole lot of reasons why it can't.
And adding today's technology, plus entire shows devoted to finding Bigfoot...it's a no go. It's a fun fantasy, I was obsessed as a child and I admit a bit of disappointment. If anything similar did exist, it's long gone.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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A comparative rare animal that not many folks see is the mountain lion (in areas where it is thought they don't exist but there are unproven sightings. No dead ones found and no pooh but the occasional foot print (I think?)
Where do you get that from? Mountain Lions are seen. They are endangered in North America but have been seen in civilized areas, they have attacked humans and livestock, they have been killed by hunters, they have been hit by cars and bodies recovered. The habits, diets, biology, reproduction, life cycle, social structure, and range (they have incredible range, which is why you see them in areas like suburban Chicago from time to time) are well studied and well documented by biologists. They are in zoo's, a few misguided people have them as pets. No - there is no comparison with cougar to a fictional beast.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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And adding today's technology, plus entire shows devoted to finding Bigfoot...it's a no go. It's a fun fantasy, I was obsessed as a child and I admit a bit of disappointment. If anything similar did exist, it's long gone.
When you get your education from watching a tv show or two then you will get your results.Those tv shows almost always use the hoaxers as the real deal. There are imo millions of arm chair researchers in this area but very few actually get out there in the field.
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Old 11-14-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Maine
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When you get your education from watching a tv show or two then you will get your results.Those tv shows almost always use the hoaxers as the real deal. There are imo millions of arm chair researchers in this area but very few actually get out there in the field.
Bigfoot was extensively sought and researched throughout the 1960s and 1970s by scientists, wildlife biologists, anthropologists, etc. My college anthropology teacher was one of them, and his colleague actually looked for yeti in the Himalayas. The conclusion: There is no Bigfoot. Not one scrap of credible evidence found after decades of trying to find it.

That is the reason serious scientists ignore it these days. It's the same reason there are so few scientists out there looking for unicorns, fairies, and dragons.
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Old 11-14-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Where do you get that from? Mountain Lions are seen. They are endangered in North America but have been seen in civilized areas, they have attacked humans and livestock, they have been killed by hunters, they have been hit by cars and bodies recovered. The habits, diets, biology, reproduction, life cycle, social structure, and range (they have incredible range, which is why you see them in areas like suburban Chicago from time to time) are well studied and well documented by biologists. They are in zoo's, a few misguided people have them as pets. No - there is no comparison with cougar to a fictional beast.
If they are seen, have attacked humans and so on then they are known to exist in those areas. I was referring to them moving into new areas where they previously did not exist or were not known to exist. The initial sightings were rare and not substantiated. I just used that as an example of lack of any other evidence.
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Old 11-14-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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Bigfoot has been found. He's in Cleveland. His real name is Lebron.
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Old 11-15-2014, 02:28 AM
 
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When you get your education from watching a tv show or two then you will get your results.Those tv shows almost always use the hoaxers as the real deal. There are imo millions of arm chair researchers in this area but very few actually get out there in the field.
OK, well there are plenty out in the field. Same results.
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Old 11-15-2014, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Not a die-hard believer, just playing Devil's Advocate here...

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We're not talking about a new subspecies of rodent or grasshopper. We're talking about a supposedly 8 foot primate. A mammal of that size is going to need a lot of room and food to survive, and breeding population at a minimum of several hundred individuals. Do you really think it's possible for a thousand or more 8 foot primates to:

a.) Eat that many calories each day without once being seen by a photographer in 50+ years?
LOL. It sounds like someone didn't pay much attention in Geography class. Do you have any idea how large, and by extension how remote, Canada truly is? Something like 80% of the population here lives within 50 miles of the U.S. border. Now spread the remaining 6,600,000 around the remaining majority of the country and you have millions of acres where a beast like this could thrive undetected.

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b.) Not once be hit by a car, shot by a hunter, shot by a survivalist enclave, or shot by a nervous homeowner?
Have you ever heard of the eastern cougar? The cougar (or mountain lion) was allegedly extirpated from Ontario in 1884, however they are still regularly seen by hunters and outdoorsmen. To date, there has not been a definitive picture of one captured on a game cam, nor has one been found as roadkill. To be blunt, this is a large carnivore that seems as elusive as Sasquatch and would be treated in exactly the same manner if the cougar did not live in other parts of the world, or if it was not known to have a previous history in Ontario. In fact, most sightings are at most passed off by the Ministry of Natural Resources as "escaped pets", despite the evidence there is a large, breeding population in Ontario's wilderness.

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c.) Not once be seen enough for a clear definitive photograph?
Please see the notes on the eastern cougar above.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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LOL. It sounds like someone didn't pay much attention in Geography class. Do you have any idea how large, and by extension how remote, Canada truly is? Something like 80% of the population here lives within 50 miles of the U.S. border. Now spread the remaining 6,600,000 around the remaining majority of the country and you have millions of acres where a beast like this could thrive undetected.
Yes, but with Google 'Earth' I can see that ant crawling on your sidewalk! Technology gets better all of the time. Many of the so called sightings are not in your Canadian deep woods.



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Have you ever heard of the eastern cougar? The cougar (or mountain lion) was allegedly extirpated from Ontario in 1884, however they are still regularly seen by hunters and outdoorsmen. To date, there has not been a definitive picture of one captured on a game cam, nor has one been found as roadkill. To be blunt, this is a large carnivore that seems as elusive as Sasquatch and would be treated in exactly the same manner if the cougar did not live in other parts of the world, or if it was not known to have a previous history in Ontario. In fact, most sightings are at most passed off by the Ministry of Natural Resources as "escaped pets", despite the evidence there is a large, breeding population in Ontario's wilderness.
Not quite true: Cougars extinct in East? No way, say those who claim sightings - U.S. News. My wife and I spotted one in Eastern PA about six years before this one was killed in Connecticut. In our case we did not have the body to confirm our sighting. However, if one can make it to Connecticut; one could have passed through Pennsylvania. But, regardless, we have a body and that means it is possible. That is what is missing with all of the Big Foot sightings - tangible evidence!
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